# Anyone tried Laird RM1XX modules? **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware\ **Created:** [July 13, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795 "2016-07-13T13:56:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/1 "2016-07-13T13:56:57Z")
Anyone tried this module? [http://www.lairdtech.com/products/rm1xx-lora-modules](http://www.lairdtech.com/products/rm1xx-lora-modules) LoRaWAN certified + Bluetooth + ufl connector + you can program its MCU directly (with a weird `BASIC` dialect, but whatever) = $20 Sounds good ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 3:42pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/2 "2016-07-13T15:42:48Z")
WOW ! the RN2483 of the future 😄 ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/7/7631e287e8ae065e29df136110de35922341f324.jpg) [INTRODUCTION](http://www.lairdtech.com/products/rm1xx-lora-modules) The RM186 is a wireless communications module that combines a Nordic nRF51822\_QFAC (256/16) BLE device and a Semtech SX1272 860 to 1020 MHz low power, long range transceiver. The RM186 is designed to function in the EU 863-870 MHz ISM band as opposed to the RM191 which is a very similar device designed for the US 902-928 MHz ISM band. The RM186 can collect data from external sources by interfacing directly with a sensor over a UART, SPI or, I2C serial communication channel or over a wireless BLE connection if a sensor is physically connected to a BLE peripheral device. Data can also be gathered internally using the analog or digital IO pins. Once the data has been collected and arranged in packets, it can then be transmitted to a remote LoRaWAN Gateway up to 16 kilometers away. From there it can be transmitted to a server or database over a TCP/IP link. **[Connecting to Kerlink](http://cdn.lairdtech.com/home/brandworld/files/Application%20Note%20-%20Connecting%20to%20a%20Kerlink%20Gateway%20-%20RM1xx%20Series.pdf)** **[Connecting to Semtech Website](http://cdn.lairdtech.com/home/brandworld/files/Application%20Note%20-%20Connecting%20to%20the%20Semtech%20Website%20-%20RM1xx%20Series.pdf)** [**Connecting to Multitech Conduit**](http://cdn.lairdtech.com/home/brandworld/files/Application%20Note%20-%20Connecting%20to%20a%20Multitech%20Conduit%20Gateway%20-%20RM1xx%20Series.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 4:26pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/3 "2016-07-13T16:26:33Z")
No stock anywhere for the next 16 weeks it seems… 😧 ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 4:41pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/4 "2016-07-13T16:41:12Z")
then we have some time to study that funny [language](https://github.com/LairdCP/RM1xx-Applications/blob/master/lora.connect.sb)🕶 my first impression is that this is the ideal ‘domestic’ companion for the TTN gateway … BLE inside! ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3624efeb74bd0d0905e77f745455b615023a33e6.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 7:48pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/5 "2016-07-13T19:48:57Z")
It says 16 weeks lead time, but at the same time, there’s this estimated dispatch date in 2 weeks: ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/b/b22a9c2a8a6ffe906af040fc8e65a2cc267ba157.png) 😕 ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2016, 8:48pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/6 "2016-07-13T20:48:19Z")
![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/6/6f946a508e2aa19b9d09e0c57b539bdb93e0dc53.jpg) that’s a whole node 😍 ---
**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 9:28pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/7 "2016-07-14T21:28:42Z")
btw, I went ahead and ordered some from mouser and the estimated due date says 29th July, so no clue what’s the deal with those 16 weeks mentioned as factory lead time. ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/0/0aa34cec53dc02470aac252025fe73a243864be7.png) ---
**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2016, 10:17pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/8 "2016-07-14T22:17:53Z")
> [@gonzalocasas](#): > > btw, I went ahead and ordered some from mouser Same here, we will see what happens at the end of the month… 😉 ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:24pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/9 "2016-07-15T13:24:47Z")
![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/4/40c5579982f7c5691352286dae41843ea9a2ba80.jpg) me too, can’t wait for the dev kit to arrive … and you can use arduino shields, very nice ---
**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 1:38pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/10 "2016-07-15T13:38:12Z")
@BoRRoZ: do you think the devkit is really required? or can you program those without it? ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 3:03pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/11 "2016-07-15T15:03:31Z")
you can do without, but you need a usb/seral adapter, a power supply, some sensors and buttons, very good eyes and a steady hand to solder the stampsize unit on a… yes, on what ? (hi Charles 😇 - hi Dan) so I am lazy … and I have some ‘old’ arduino shields laying around. another thing I noticed is, that in the hardware integration guide they mention (warned) that you cannot have copper around the ufl connector. ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/8/87da968edc6029d29376f00d9a6b6d15adfbaf60.jpg) so that’s maybe also difficult to achieve without designing a dedicated expiriments pcb breadboard converter ---
**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/12 "2016-07-15T16:57:43Z")
It was all good until you said steady hand 😛 Pitch size is 1.524mm, right? So, a tiny little bit bigger than the RN2483. ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 5:13pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/13 "2016-07-15T17:13:29Z")
yes thats true 🕶 ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/f/f6713a895e4dac3f39fb67c5c585144251c77303.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![ursm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/ursm/32/46475_2.png) [@ursm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ursm)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/14 "2016-07-15T17:43:23Z")
who is designing a breakout board, please? ---
**Author:** ![Charles](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/charles/32/45146_2.png) [@Charles](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Charles)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 4:25pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/15 "2016-07-17T16:25:39Z")
Ok guys, I listened @BoRRoZ suggestions and here it is the 1st revision, all open source of course **Top PCB** ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/b/bad5850383b8adbfda4e377c6b476b439c431ce0.png) **Bottom PCB** ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/e/e62525cf119881f10b07bc0d47ad7d5901723a85.png) Full repo with [PCBs.io](http://PCBs.io) link to order PCBs directly on my github [https://github.com/hallard/RM1xx-Breakout](https://github.com/hallard/RM1xx-Breakout) Take care it’s untested but should works. ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 4:46pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/16 "2016-07-17T16:46:49Z")
![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/8/8083f5b9430dd73ff0fe553b1d2091d1f71d70d0.png) merci ---
**Author:** ![TijnOnlijn](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/tijnonlijn/32/27494_2.png) [@TijnOnlijn](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/TijnOnlijn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/17 "2016-07-17T17:19:36Z")
Interesting, so far I was under the impression that the RN2483 was not programmable because of the certification. Apparently there are ways… ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/18 "2016-07-17T17:29:31Z")
This has nothing to do with RN2483 which is from MICROCHIP. The RM186 is produced by LAIRD and have BlueTooth onboard but you can’t ‘freely’ program this module. ---
**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/19 "2016-07-17T17:56:35Z")
@Charles this is absolutely amazing! ---
**Author:** ![TijnOnlijn](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/tijnonlijn/32/27494_2.png) [@TijnOnlijn](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/TijnOnlijn)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2016, 6:03pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/20 "2016-07-17T18:03:22Z")
I know, but the fact that this thing is programmable and still certified puts that in a different perspective, doesn’t it? [Next page](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795.md?page=2)