# Anyone tried Laird RM1XX modules?

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**Category:** Hardware\
**Created:** [July 13, 2016, 1:56pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795 "2016-07-13T13:56:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/45 "2016-08-04T12:11:57Z")

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I think that depends on the quality of the compiler 😉

(and the optimised sensor librarys they make available 😇 )

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**Author:** ![stuartlea](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/stuartlea/32/36050_2.png) [@stuartlea](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/stuartlea)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 12:16pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/46 "2016-08-04T12:16:56Z")

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Sure…but with the bandwidth being sooooo low we need to be very smart in the way in which we make use of it…especially since our site survey seem to suggest that 980bps will be the best we can get out of our link. Oh well, it’s a challenge - would be boring if you’d said 1MB !

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**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 12:32pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/47 "2016-08-04T12:32:15Z")

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> [@stuartlea](#):
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> would be boring if you’d said 1MB !

😆

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**Author:** ![BWhitten](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bwhitten/32/12784_2.png) [@BWhitten](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BWhitten)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 1:42pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/48 "2016-08-04T13:42:17Z")

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Hi from Laird 🙂  
If you have any questions or comments I’ll be sure to help out if I can.  
 ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/e/ecc875bada82519a1e31b80246c75f960c2915bd.jpg)

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**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/49 "2016-08-04T14:25:09Z")

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Hi and thank you !

( _Laird devkits with a nice ‘TTN club’ discount 😉 , that’s a win / win_ )

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**Author:** ![Charles](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/charles/32/45146_2.png) [@Charles](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Charles)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 2:33pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/50 "2016-08-04T14:33:31Z")

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Oupssss 30k ? depends on what are already in in term of lib and what we need to code 😉  
And what about RAM ?

But Laird guys have plenty of fun 🙂 look below on github  
 ![](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/3/352a44dd3be2221f4a762d7a49e57e31eb98a571.png)

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**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/51 "2016-08-04T14:37:00Z")

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Hi @BWhitten!  
While discounts as BoRRoZ suggested would be awesome, I think it would help the TTN community tremendously if you’d publish sample code that already works with TTN out-of-the-box (minus replacing the keys).

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**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/52 "2016-08-04T14:37:45Z")

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> [@Charles](#):
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> Oupssss 30k

isn’t 30k plenty of space considering the lorawan stack is already implemented? so it’s 30k only for application code if I understand it correctly

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**Author:** ![stuartlea](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/stuartlea/32/36050_2.png) [@stuartlea](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/stuartlea)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/53 "2016-08-04T14:41:41Z")

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Depends on what you are up to…I’m guessing that some people will be performing some significant signal processing/conditioning of signals at regular intervals and then pushing a go/no-go up to their servers.

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**Author:** ![jmarcelino](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jmarcelino/32/46753_2.png) [@jmarcelino](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/jmarcelino)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2016, 3:01pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/54 "2016-08-04T15:01:44Z")

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[quote=“gonzalocasas, post:51, topic:2795, full:true”] I think it would help the TTN community tremendously if you’d publish sample code that already works with TTN out-of-the-box (minus replacing the keys).  
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The sample “command line” code already connects to TTN with no changes.

Just get the configured DevEUI (if you don’t want to set your own) with  
AT I 25

Then set the AppEUI and AppKey with:  
at+cfgex 1000 “Your\_App\_EUI”  
at+cfgex 1002 “Your\_App\_Key”  
atz

Finally load the example script they provide below and run as _cmd_  
Once running you can join TTN with OTAA by typing  
_lora join_

```
00
cmd

OK    
>lora join

OK
>Attempting to join the LoRa network
Successfully joined the LoRa network
>lora send "Hello World" 1 1

OK
>LoRa TX Complete Event
LoRa RX Complete Event

```

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> <https://github.com/LairdCP/RM1xx-Applications/blob/master/cmd.loramac.rm1xx.sb>

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**Author:** ![alanfmarion](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/alanfmarion/32/35697_2.png) [@alanfmarion](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/alanfmarion)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 12:51am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/55 "2016-08-05T00:51:19Z")

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Hi,  
I am considering the DVK-RM191.  
Currently I am working with the Microchip RN2903 Boards.  
I have been waiting for the TTN LoRa Gateway for many months and at least with the RN2903 I can do some testing at the PHY level by using the “MAC Pause” command and thereby have a send device and receive device for range testing.  
I haven’t seen the ability to do this in the RM191 in the docs I have looked at. Is it possible?  
Concerning the BLE capability, I am considering using Eddystone BLE beacons - probably BL600 and other manufacturers.  
The RM191 would aggregate these … Any idea about a typical population of beacons that could be supported by a single RM191?  
Thanks,  
Alan

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**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 4:46am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/56 "2016-08-05T04:46:49Z")

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@BWhitten: do you have any info about the delays mouser has to ship the orders of your modules? Is it delayed on Laird’s side or is it mouser?

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**Author:** ![BWhitten](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bwhitten/32/12784_2.png) [@BWhitten](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BWhitten)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 9:01am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/57 "2016-08-05T09:01:35Z")

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@gonzalocasas: I’m afraid I don’t have any of that information, I’m in engineering so I can’t comment on pricing and shipping.  
The best place to ask is probably the [support portal](https://laird-ews-support.desk.com/).

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**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 9:05am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/58 "2016-08-05T09:05:27Z")

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> [@BWhitten](#):
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> The best place to ask is probably the support portal.

thanks! I just sent a message there.

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**Author:** ![dirkvm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/dirkvm/32/29796_2.png) [@dirkvm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/dirkvm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 11:17am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/59 "2016-08-05T11:17:04Z")

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@BWhitten : any idea where we can find RM1xx-defs.h?  
The [https://github.com/LairdCP/RM1xx-Applications/blob/master/cmd.loramac.rm1xx.sb](https://github.com/LairdCP/RM1xx-Applications/blob/master/cmd.loramac.rm1xx.sb) sample requires this header file but it’s not part of the repository 😕

I tried to register here [http://www.lairdtech.com/support/product-support-center/embedded-wireless/embedded-wireless-software/register-your](http://www.lairdtech.com/support/product-support-center/embedded-wireless/embedded-wireless-software/register-your) to download the SDK but the form keeps insisting that a “field is required” while everything is filled in.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![BWhitten](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bwhitten/32/12784_2.png) [@BWhitten](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BWhitten)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 11:34am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/60 "2016-08-05T11:34:03Z")

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> [@dirkvm](#):
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> any idea where we can find RM1xx-defs.h

@dirkvm: This header file should be in the firmware release package for the module.  
If you can try another browser or device. Failing that drop them a line on the support portal, the website can be a little temperamental. 😉

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**Author:** ![dirkvm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/dirkvm/32/29796_2.png) [@dirkvm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/dirkvm)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 11:44am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/61 "2016-08-05T11:44:22Z")

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Thanks @BWhitten Tried both Firefox and Chrome without success, dropped them a note yesterday and today 😉

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**Author:** ![x893-00](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/x893-00/32/34472_2.png) [@x893-00](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/x893-00)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 1:51pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/62 "2016-08-05T13:51:21Z")

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Rename to .h  
[RM1xx-defs.h.pdf](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/3/3bfece1828177e6672122714373a02d1fb397d84.pdf) (3.7 KB)

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**Author:** ![gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/gonzalo/32/40499_2.png) [@gonzalo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/gonzalo)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 2:03pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/63 "2016-08-05T14:03:33Z")

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About mouser’s shipping delay, I got a reply from Laird tech support just now that indicates they shipped everything to mouser (and others) already, so it shouldn’t take much longer. Rick Tretow replied:

> We have shipped RM186 modules to Digikey, Mouser, and Arrow in the period between now and mid-July. A site check shows:

> Digikey – RM186-SM-01-ND – Qty avail 100 with 10 DVK’s available for immediate ship  
> Mouser – 814 RM186-SM-01 – Qty on order 64 with 6 DVK’s available for immediate ship  
> Arrow – both back-ordered.

> We believe Arrow’s order was for this past week so we would expect them to have stock very soon.

> We have additional units in our stock for them to replenish their stock.

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**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2016, 3:43pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/anyone-tried-laird-rm1xx-modules/2795/64 "2016-08-05T15:43:48Z")

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