# Basic Station status and usage **URL:** \ **Category:** Gateways\ **Created:** [March 10, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221 "2020-03-10T14:42:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/robertlie/32/37681_2.png) [@robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/robertlie)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 2:42pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/1 "2020-03-10T14:42:27Z")
I am working on several LoRa/LoRaWAN tutorials around Semtech Basic Station. During my research I noticed that I only found 2 gateways which supports the Basic Station protocol. The Things Indoor Gateway (TTIG). [https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/gateways/thethingsindoor/](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/gateways/thethingsindoor/) Multitech Conduit [https://www.multitech.net/developer/software/lora/running-basic-station-on-conduit/](https://www.multitech.net/developer/software/lora/running-basic-station-on-conduit/) My questions are: - Are there any other gateways which supports Semtech Basic Station protocol? - The last commit on [https://github.com/lorabasics/basicstation](https://github.com/lorabasics/basicstation) is almost 1 year. Does anyone know if Semtech still supports/maintains the Basic Station protocol? - We have the Semtech UDP packet forwarder, TTN Packet Forwarder but the development is put on hold and the Basic Station. But during my research I could not find much information about Basic Station, besides on Semtech, ChirpStack and TTN websites. Is my assumption correct that Basic Station is hardly used at all? Is the LoRa/LoRaWAN community mostly using the Semtech UDP packet forwarder? ---
**Author:** ![cjhdev](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/cjhdev/32/35697_2.png) [@cjhdev](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/cjhdev)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 5:57pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/2 "2020-03-10T17:57:15Z")
I would expect all maintained gateways to support this protocol since it’s a big improvement on the demo UDP format and a reference is provided. The Laird RG1xx appears to support it. ---
**Author:** ![Verkehrsrot](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/verkehrsrot/32/46588_2.png) [@Verkehrsrot](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Verkehrsrot)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 8:26pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/3 "2020-03-10T20:26:32Z")
RAK7258 has Basic Station support with current beta. ---
**Author:** ![iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iilaw/32/35724_2.png) [@iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iiLaw)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2020, 9:59pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/4 "2020-03-10T21:59:37Z")
Robert 23:37 in to vid is slide from TTN conf on those supporting Basic Stn https://www.youtube.com/embed/ThYilMcrYp8?feature=oembed&wmode=opaque&list=PLM8eOeiKY7JV5KMwomW4cJrKB42ItPyey Also have you seen the Basic Stn content & vids on [https://lora-developers.semtech.com/resources/tools/basic-station/welcome-basic-station/](https://lora-developers.semtech.com/resources/tools/basic-station/welcome-basic-station/) Also BS isn’t new it was developed by Traknet who were acquired by Semtech. We ran with it for about a year and half it was rock solid. It’s new to TTN community it’s been tried and tested. And thanks for your youtube vids a great resource. ---
**Author:** ![cultsdotelecomatgmai](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/cultsdotelecomatgmai/32/35697_2.png) [@cultsdotelecomatgmai](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/cultsdotelecomatgmai)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 6:25am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/5 "2020-03-11T06:25:04Z")
Hi @robertlie, I use LORIXone gateways and they have sent me a beta version of the new LORIXOS firmware that supports Basic Station. It’s on my to-do list to test. ---
**Author:** ![robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/robertlie/32/37681_2.png) [@robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/robertlie)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 7:46am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/6 "2020-03-11T07:46:11Z")
@ [iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iiLaw) Thank you! I already have watched this video but I completely forgot about this slide. I will checkout these companies. ---
**Author:** ![robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/robertlie/32/37681_2.png) [@robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/robertlie)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:01am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/7 "2020-03-11T08:01:50Z")
@ [Verkehrsrot](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Verkehrsrot), could you provide me link where I can find this? I have searched their website, but could not find this information. ---
**Author:** ![robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/robertlie/32/37681_2.png) [@robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/robertlie)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/8 "2020-03-11T08:11:43Z")
@ [cjhdev](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/cjhdev), thank you. I quickly scanned their documentation. ---
**Author:** ![Verkehrsrot](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/verkehrsrot/32/46588_2.png) [@Verkehrsrot](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Verkehrsrot)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 8:43am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/9 "2020-03-11T08:43:14Z")
It’s in the current beta which i got directly from their support. Release is announced for “late march”. ---
**Author:** ![robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/robertlie/32/37681_2.png) [@robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/robertlie)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:09am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/10 "2020-03-11T09:09:38Z")
@ [Verkehrsrot](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/9) Okay, thanks. ---
**Author:** ![iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iilaw/32/35724_2.png) [@iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iiLaw)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:26am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/11 "2020-03-11T09:26:23Z")
@robertlie I’m just looking at getting BS working on MT conduit. Looking at Authentication The TTIG comes provisioned with with either **TLS Server Authentication** Or **TLS Server and Client Authentication** Looking at doc’s I’m assuming with other manfs. GW’s (for now) need to use **TLS Server Authentication** and **Client Token** where Token is GW Key ---
**Author:** ![jreiss](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jreiss/32/46529_2.png) [@jreiss](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/jreiss)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/12 "2020-03-11T13:45:24Z")
An updated version of Basic Station is available for Conduit. This version has a fixed clksrc of 0. An overriding clksrc was being sent by the TTN servers. [http://www.multitech.net/developer/downloads/](http://www.multitech.net/developer/downloads/) ---
**Author:** ![iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iilaw/32/35724_2.png) [@iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iiLaw)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2020, 9:34pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/13 "2020-03-11T21:34:04Z")
Jason, thanks for updating **running basic station on conduit** [https://www.multitech.net/developer/software/lora/running-basic-station-on-conduit/](https://www.multitech.net/developer/software/lora/running-basic-station-on-conduit/) very timely for me ---
**Author:** ![jvbelle](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jvbelle/32/35697_2.png) [@jvbelle](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/jvbelle)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 1:45pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/14 "2020-03-12T13:45:39Z")
The Laird RG1xx has support for BS with the latest firmware, but TTN is not providing clear info on how to use it with their network… which is really annoying. The ‘register gateway’ page of TTN ([https://console.thethingsnetwork.org/gateways/register](https://console.thethingsnetwork.org/gateways/register)) does not show how to register a gateway that uses the Basics Station Forwarder… ---
**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:24pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/15 "2020-03-12T15:24:22Z")
Use legacy check box…it’s the same as registering a TTIG… ---
**Author:** ![robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/robertlie/32/37681_2.png) [@robertlie](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/robertlie)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:50pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/16 "2020-03-12T15:50:38Z")
@jvbelle, I was able to install Basic Station on RAK831 and connect it to TTN, read @KrishnaIyerEaswaran2 post: [Using basicstation on RPI gateway](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/using-basicstation-on-rpi-gateway/33403/8) ---
**Author:** ![bduffez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bduffez/32/36716_2.png) [@bduffez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/bduffez)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 12:15am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/17 "2020-03-13T00:15:41Z")
Their official doc mentions Kerlink Wirnet Station and a raspberry based gateway: [https://doc.sm.tc/station/platforms.html](https://doc.sm.tc/station/platforms.html) ---
**Author:** ![iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iilaw/32/35724_2.png) [@iiLaw](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iiLaw)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2020, 9:37am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/18 "2020-03-13T09:37:54Z")
@robertlie for ref. > > > Summary > In the Basic Station protocol, the LNS sends a configuration structure router\_config down to the gateway. Upon reception, Station merges the... ---
**Author:** ![Ivete-Ursalink](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/ivete-ursalink/32/32211_2.png) [@Ivete-Ursalink](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Ivete-Ursalink)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2020, 7:53am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/19 "2020-03-25T07:53:26Z")
Ursalink gateway supports Basic Station [https://www.ursalink.com/en/](https://www.ursalink.com/en/) ---
**Author:** ![s21](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/s21/32/35697_2.png) [@s21](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/s21)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2020, 1:01pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221/20 "2020-05-09T13:01:09Z")
Hi everyone, I’m not sure if this belongs here, but I’m struggling to find any information on how to use basicstation with the SemTech picoGW card (USB to SPI bridge + SX1301), preferably with GPS synch. The platform is OpenWRT ramips (MT7620), and it’s currently running fine with TTN using the legacy `pico_pkt_fwd` from xueliu’s lora-feed. However, I would like to add GPS for class B (NMEA is available through `/dev/ttyS0` and PPS is connected to the corrresponding miniPCI-E Pin), but this is currently unimplemented in the picoGW variant of the packet-formwarder… Besides I’d rather prefer to use this card with basicstation instead, but is it even supported yet? Can I really just set `"device": "/dev/ttyACM0"` instead of `"/dev/spidev0.0"` in the `station.conf`? I hardly believe this would work, at least there seems to be no documentation available whatsoever for the picoGW card, aside from how to click around the GUI of a fancy Windows Demo application. Maybe it’s just me, or this is really quite ridiculous. [Next page](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/basic-station-status-and-usage/35221.md?page=2)