# Cannot schedule downlink using curl or MQTT **URL:** \ **Category:** Application Development\ **Created:** [July 13, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507 "2020-07-13T14:34:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bermudez/32/25844_2.png) [@bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/bermudez)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 2:34pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/1 "2020-07-13T14:34:28Z")
Dear all I need to send the DOWNLINK message to TTN to manage **mcf88 Lora plug** remotely. The payload is 04000100000000000000 to switch on the plug. I tried 2 proposed solutions by HTTP and MQTT. Related commands are For HTTP : `curl -X POST --data '{"dev_id":"plug1_mcf88","port":1,"confirmed":false,"payload_raw":"BAABAAAAAAAAAA=="}' https://integrations.thethingsnetwork.org/ttn-eu/api/v2/down/plug1_mcf88/plug1?key=ttn-account-v2.***thekeyofmyapplication` For MQTT : `mosquitto_pub -h eu.thethings.network -t "plug1_mcf88/devices/plug1-mcf88/down" -u "plug1_mcf88" -P "ttn-account-v2. ***thekeyofmyapplication" -m {""payload_raw""** :"BAABAAAAAAAAAA=="** }"` In both cases the command is going well. But in the data window of the device i don’t see any downlink appear. Only usual every minute uplink. ![image](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/3X/7/7/77f55a4136d7ef56db7266662c738bacecb2dff3.png) What can be the problem? Thank you for your advice and help With best regards, Ken ---
**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/2 "2020-07-13T15:09:11Z")
To debug curl, see [Having trouble sending downlink with HTTP Integration](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/having-trouble-sending-downlink-with-http-integration/38217). For the MQTT command the opening `{` is outside of your quotes, and you’re nesting quotes without escaping them. Also, notice the downlink on port 0 that TTN sends after each of your uplinks. ~~That probably implies that TTN does not like the data rate you’re using for your uplinks. You’ll need to investigate that, like see [LMIC Library Always Does Unwanted Downlink](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lmic-library-always-does-unwanted-downlink/21293).~~ It does not seem related to the problem you’re seeing, but maybe it affects it, and it needs fixing anyhow. Finally, ~~if TTN does not like your data rate~~ as the downlinks are in RX2, the uplinks are probably ~~SF12~~ SF9 or worse? Then you’re sending way too often! But even on the best data rate, SF7, with the 17 bytes you’re sending [you’re only allowed an average of 17 messages per hour](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QvcKsGeTTPpr9icj4XkKXq4r2zTc2j0gsHLrnplzM3I/edit#gid=0). For SF12, the limit is less than 1 message **per hour**. ---
**Author:** ![cslorabox](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/cslorabox/32/35697_2.png) [@cslorabox](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/cslorabox)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2020, 8:15pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/3 "2020-07-13T20:15:10Z")
You should not be using confirmed uplink when you transmit this frequently, the automatic confirmation downlinks will quickly exhaust your allowance. That might not be causing things to fail (though really, such an egregious misuse should…) but it’s something you need to stop doing. Your polling uplinks need to be unconfirmed traffic. If the switch cannot do that, then it’s not appropriate for use on TTN. ---
**Author:** ![bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bermudez/32/25844_2.png) [@bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/bermudez)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/4 "2020-07-14T13:06:04Z")
Thank you very much for your answer. I started from HTTP. I corrected all ’ to " and tried use all links that you recommend and also to send the downlink by Postman. The curl line is: `curl.exe -i -v -X POST -d “{“dev_id”:"plug1-mcf88",“port”:1,"payload_raw":"AQE="}” https://integrations.thethingsnetwork.org/ttn-eu/api/v2/down/plug1_mcf88/plug1?key=ttn-account-v2.` And in all cases i have the error HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request. I tried with/without port, confirmed, or another payload raw, etc. All time i have this problem. If i send the downlink directly from the TTN to this port 1, it works, and the equipment answer. But by http what can be the problem? I also tried on the other equipment to test the same thing ( downlink about the state of one of the thermal sensors), i did through the curl and through the Postmman exactly how it was indicated in the example, but all time i received the HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request. Directly from TTN the equipment receive and answers. What it can be ? ---
**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 1:09pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/5 "2020-07-14T13:09:45Z")
> [@bermudez](#): > > I corrected all ’ to " That yields nested quotes. Also, you have curly `“..”` quotes in your command now. [Having trouble sending downlink with HTTP Integration](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/having-trouble-sending-downlink-with-http-integration/38217) refers to [Using curl or Postman for the HTTP Integration on Windows](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/using-curl-or-postman-for-the-http-integration-on-windows/12467) which explains how to “escape” the nested quotes. Aside, please see [How do I format my forum post? [HowTo]](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/how-do-i-format-my-forum-post-howto/8735) to avoid the forum software from replacing `".."` with `“..”`. ---
**Author:** ![bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bermudez/32/25844_2.png) [@bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/bermudez)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/6 "2020-07-14T13:49:29Z")
Dear Arjan Thank you for your answer. I revised good and tried all approaches that were described in indicated pages of the forum. I formed the link considering [Using curl or Postman for the HTTP Integration on Windows](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/using-curl-or-postman-for-the-http-integration-on-windows/12467) More details : device : plug1-mcf88 application : plug1\_mcf88 http integration: plug1 > `C:\mos>curl.exe -i -v -X POST -data "{ "dev_id ": "plug1-mcf88 ", "payload_raw ": "AQE= "}" https://integrations.thethingsnetwork.org/ttn-eu/api/v2/down/plug1_mcf88/plug1?key=ttn-account-v2.....secret key>` but i tried with and without spaces, all different combinations of \* `"{ "dev_id": "plug1-mcf88", "payload_raw": "AQE="}" ` `"{ "dev_id":"plug1-mcf88", "payload_raw":"AQE="}"` etc. throught the curl and Postmant But in all i have HTTP/1.1 400 Bad Request. What it can be? Thank you for your help ---
**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2020, 2:13pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/7 "2020-07-14T14:13:23Z")
> [@bermudez](#): > > i tried with and without spaces, all different combinations of \* > `"{ "dev_id": "plug1-mcf88", "payload_raw": "AQE="}" ` > `"{ "dev_id":"plug1-mcf88", "payload_raw":"AQE="}"` It’s not about the spaces. But none of the above “escape” the nested double-quotes. The JSON message you want to send to the server is: ```json {"dev_id":"plug1-mcf88","port":1,"payload_raw":"AQE="} ``` This is the very same as: ```json {"dev_id": "plug1-mcf88", "port": 1, "payload_raw": "AQE="} ``` …or even: ```json { "dev_id": "plug1-mcf88", "port": 1, "payload_raw": "AQE=" } ``` So, the JSON message you want to send includes double-quotes around the keys (such as `"dev_id"`) and around text values (such as `"plug1-mcf88"`), but not around numbers (such as port number `1`). This way, computers know where a text value starts and where it ends. Without that, it would not know what to do with the whitespace around the values, like in the 2nd and 3rd examples. **The above should work with Postman just fine.** Next, on the Windows `curl.exe` command line, you specify the data you want to send using: ```plaintext --data "your data here" ``` On a Mac or on Linux, you could also use single-quotes: ```plaintext --data 'your data here' ``` But on Windows, the parameter’s value needs to be surrounded by double-qoutes. However, the JSON data already includes double-quotes itself. Now, if you’d erroneously use: ```plaintext --data "{"dev_id": "plug1-mcf88", "port": 1, "payload_raw": "AQE="}" ``` …then Windows cannot tell where the keys and values start and end; it doesn’t even know that the value continues after seeing `"{"`. To avoid that, you’ll need to escape the double-quotes in the parameter value: ```plaintext --data "{\"dev_id\": \"plug1-mcf88\", \"port\": 1, \"payload_raw\": "\AQE=\"}" ``` Also, **again** , please see [How do I format my forum post? [HowTo]](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/how-do-i-format-my-forum-post-howto/8735) ---
**Author:** ![bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/bermudez/32/25844_2.png) [@bermudez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/bermudez)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2020, 9:28am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/cannot-schedule-downlink-using-curl-or-mqtt/38507/8 "2020-07-15T09:28:02Z")
Thank you very much for your very precise description. Now it is clear for me and it is work quite well Thank you very much for your help!