# Connect 1000 LoRa module to single outdoor gateway **URL:** \ **Category:** End Devices (Nodes)\ **Created:** [April 7, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968 "2020-04-07T06:20:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/sumitsirmewar/32/39462_2.png) [@sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/sumitsirmewar)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 6:20am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/1 "2020-04-07T06:20:22Z")
Hello to all, I am working on the LoRaWAN network. I got some problems at the time of connection. If I connect 10 end devices, that time all 10 end devices connected to the gateway. But if I increase the end device quantity that time some end devices unable to connect to the gateway. I want to connect the 1000 end device to a single outdoor gateway. So can anyone give me a solution for this? ---
**Author:** ![AlainD](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/alaind/32/35697_2.png) [@AlainD](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/AlainD)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/2 "2020-04-07T08:17:20Z")
Hi for OTAA join the gateway must send and those are limited to. After the join a gateway will likely support more that 1000 end nodes. Be aware that you’re gateway could fail and then the communication will be halted, for 1000 end nodes I would try to get two "independend"gateways. Would be good for you’re peace of mind. ---
**Author:** ![sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/sumitsirmewar/32/39462_2.png) [@sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/sumitsirmewar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 7:40am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/3 "2020-04-08T07:40:53Z")
hi, i am doing this for, testing purpose. so can u tell me, how can i solve this ---
**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:00am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/4 "2020-04-08T08:00:56Z")
See, emphasis mine: > [@Multiple new devices trying to OTAA](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/multiple-new-devices-trying-to-otaa/8813/2): > > … you are probably running out of airtime for the gateway which has to adhere to the same limits a node is subjected to. If I recall correctly the console might list a message in the device data stating there is no gateway available to send the response. > > If there is no gateway available to transmit a packet (join response or downlink) it is discarded. For joins a new join request will be sent by the node for which a new reply will be generated by the back-end. > > **You could add gateways at your location to increase the available downlink capacity.** TTN will choose the gateway with best link and available airtime to transmit a packet. Or: simply do not make 1,000 devices try to join at about the same time. Why would you need that? See [Multiple new devices trying to OTAA](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/multiple-new-devices-trying-to-otaa/8813) and [Best approach to OTAA join for multiple devices turning ON at the same time](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/best-approach-to-otaa-join-for-multiple-devices-turning-on-at-the-same-time/24586). ---
**Author:** ![sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/sumitsirmewar/32/39462_2.png) [@sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/sumitsirmewar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 8:50am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/5 "2020-04-08T08:50:59Z")
hello @arjanvanb, I jst want to connect multiple end device through OTAA to gateway, so for that, there is any change i need to do in programming, there is any algorithm i need to foloow ---
**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 12:16pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/6 "2020-04-08T12:16:46Z")
Just do not switch on/join all devices at the same time. Wait 10 minutes between devices and you should be fine **if** your devices do not send uplinks with ack requests very often (each device may only request 10 downlinks a day anyway) ---
**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2020, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/7 "2020-04-08T16:02:49Z")
And just to be sure: you should not do an OTAA join for each uplink, if that’s what you’re doing. See [How often should a node do an OTAA Join, and is OTAA better than ABP?](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/how-often-should-a-node-do-an-otaa-join-and-is-otaa-better-than-abp/11192) and [OTAA best practice: how to not join every time?](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/otaa-best-practice-how-to-not-join-every-time/14601) ---
**Author:** ![sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/sumitsirmewar/32/39462_2.png) [@sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/sumitsirmewar)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 7:35am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/8 "2020-04-11T07:35:59Z")
Hello @kersing, I read your following topic, > [@Best approach to OTAA join for multiple devices turning ON at the same time](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/best-approach-to-otaa-join-for-multiple-devices-turning-on-at-the-same-time/24586): > > Hi everyone I have been trying to get the OTAA done perfectly , and this forum has helped a lot in the purpose. Thanks for that slight_smile The question is What is the best practice for OTAA devices if there are 20 devices booting at the same time and asking for a join request on TTN Gateway? Many a times . the join get accepted , but the data doesn’t make it through for some applications. What can be the possible solution for this? Thanks in that, I got some idea to connect multiple end devices to single gateway. I have some question that, 1. there is any effect of ADC value? 2. if yes, whats is the effect? How I solve the effect? ---
**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/9 "2020-04-11T08:11:24Z")
Please start with studying LoRaWAN, the [LoRaWAN academy](https://lora-developers.semtech.com/resources/lorawan-academy/) would be a good resource. That should provide you with insight into what is relevant and what is not with regards to joining. And keep in mind nodes do not join to a gateway. That is WIFI speak. In LoRaWAN nodes join a network. That distinction should be obvious after you completed the academy course. ---
**Author:** ![sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/sumitsirmewar/32/39462_2.png) [@sumitsirmewar](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/sumitsirmewar)\ **Post date:** [April 11, 2020, 8:39am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/connect-1000-lora-module-to-single-outdoor-gateway/35968/10 "2020-04-11T08:39:58Z")
thank u so much @kersing sir