# Copy of payload to external MQTT

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251>\
**Category:** MQTT\
**Created:** [June 13, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251 "2024-06-13T17:47:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 5\
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**Author:** ![lorawandererrr](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@lorawandererrr](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/lorawandererrr)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251/1 "2024-06-13T17:47:53Z")

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So, my question is whether, even if I have my devices inside the TTN console, I’ll be able to send copies of their payloads to an external MQTT.

To explain: I have a lab and I’m testing interactions and homologations all the time. In this case, I’d like to know if it’s possible that by receiving my payloads in TTN, I could forward a copy of these messages to my own MQTT which is hosted on a server. So I would handle the messages both in TTN and in my own MQTT.

For example to RabbitMQ, any tutorial to follow to make it all easier?

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**Author:** ![descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/descartes/32/47220_2.png) [@descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/descartes)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 9:03pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251/2 "2024-06-13T21:03:53Z")

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There is no message handling in a LoRaWAN Server - they process uplinks and send them somewhere.

“external MQTT” - a broker or a client? What do the docs say is available? What does forum search say about the TTS MQTT instance.

Please take some time out to do some reading and do not expect a quick response - this is not a paid support service - sending me a message asking how to create a topic raises concerns about your expectations / speed over the ground / coffee use.

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**Author:** ![lorawandererrr](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@lorawandererrr](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/lorawandererrr)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251/3 "2024-06-13T21:50:43Z")

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It would be for a broker.

Before creating the topic I looked up how to do it, and I even tried, but unfortunately I couldn’t achieve what I was looking for.

I tried to use the integration tab itself to do what I needed to do, but I ended up getting lost and that’s why I’m asking for help.

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**Author:** ![Johan\_Scheepers](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/johan_scheepers/32/46550_2.png) [@Johan\_Scheepers](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Johan_Scheepers)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 3:47am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251/4 "2024-06-14T03:47:29Z")

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You can only set up a client, why do you want to setup broker?

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**Author:** ![david\_graham](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/david_graham/32/35697_2.png) [@david\_graham](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/david_graham)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2024, 2:41pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/copy-of-payload-to-external-mqtt/68251/5 "2024-06-14T14:41:56Z")

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Not sure if this still works, but I remember setting this up a couple of years ago and it was fine then

> **[Bridge The Things Network to your local MQTT broker](https://koen.vervloesem.eu/blog/bridge-the-things-network-to-your-local-mqtt-broker/)**
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> The Things Network is an interesting global open LoRaWAN network. I have a LoRaWAN gateway running at home, The Things Indoor Gateway, and some LoRaWAN temperature and humidity sensors in the garden a
