# Disable ttn packet forwarder on boot

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428>\
**Category:** MultiTech Gateways\
**Created:** [February 7, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428 "2018-02-07T20:12:36Z")\
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**Author:** ![ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ad0rs)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/1 "2018-02-07T20:12:36Z")

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Hi  
I have the IP67 conduit from Multitech  
I installed the ttn packet forwarder using the tutorial from TTN  
Now, I want to disable and use the forwarder of the gateway itself  
I know how to stop it every time but when I restart the conduit it works by default

Can you tell me how to do it please?  
my firmware is 1.4.4

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**Author:** ![Paul\_Stewart](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/paul_stewart/32/46922_2.png) [@Paul\_Stewart](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Paul_Stewart)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 4:45am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/2 "2018-02-08T04:45:12Z")

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I think you could just reinstall the Multitech firmware, bit drastic but it should work

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**Author:** ![ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ad0rs)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 3:54pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/3 "2018-02-08T15:54:19Z")

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Thank you for your response  
Can you tell me how to do it, please?

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**Author:** ![Paul\_Stewart](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/paul_stewart/32/46922_2.png) [@Paul\_Stewart](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Paul_Stewart)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2018, 11:33pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/4 "2018-02-08T23:33:07Z")

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I’m no expert, but head here to grab your appropriate firmware [http://www.multitech.net/developer/downloads/](http://www.multitech.net/developer/downloads/)

Then once you have the bin file - log onto the Multitech, and under the administration menu item, there is firmware upgrade.

Just install the same version over the top.

Then I think you will have to jump into global\_conf.json and modify it to connect to TTN servers.

I’m sure there are other examples in the fourm on how to do that.

cheers  
Paul

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**Author:** ![ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ad0rs)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 12:05pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/5 "2018-02-09T12:05:03Z")

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> [@Paul\_Stewart](#):
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Hi  
Thank you for that  
Will try it  
I don’t want to connect to TTN anymore since I found a way to connect my conduit directly to my application server

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**Author:** ![ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ad0rs)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 8:00am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/6 "2018-02-11T08:00:55Z")

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I wanted to re-write the firmware  
However, my firmware is 1.4.4 which is not found in the Multitech download page  
The latest firmware there is 1.4.3  
I think there’s a way to stop the ttn forwarder as a default, or delete it  
I just don’t know the right commands to do so  
@kersing , could you please help in this?  
I am beginner in Linux commands

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**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\
**Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 12:21pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/7 "2018-02-11T12:21:48Z")

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I’ll try. I’m unable to test so this might not work.

I’m providing software for people to join TTN to increase network coverage, not help them leave TTN and decrease coverage. I think TTN and its community provide added value beyond what the AEP is able to provide, so why do you not want to contibute?

Cut-and-past the following commands to the Conduit command line:

```auto
update-rc.d -f ttn-pkt-forwarder remove
update-rc.d lora-packet-forwarder defaults 95 30

cat << _EOF_ > /etc/default/lora-packet-forwarder
# set to "yes" or "no" to control starting on boot
ENABLED="yes"
_EOF_
```

Reboot after these changes and hopefully you are set.

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**Author:** ![ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ad0rs)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 8:28am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/8 "2018-02-13T08:28:02Z")

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Hi

Thank you for your help @kersing  
I did the same but replaced “lora-packet-forwarder” with “lora-network-server” in second and third lines  
and it worked

as for the other matter:  
I sincerely thank all who added value to the community  
I myself am new to lora and the TTN community helped me a lot  
The reason I can’t use TTN:  
I am using it and sending data of 100+ bytes per packets per nodes each 1-3 minutes  
the TTN fair policy doesn’t help in this  
and I might later even abuse the duty cycle for certain tests (inside a lab in a building so it won’t be a problem)  
I hope a can add more to the community later in other projects

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**Author:** ![Osman](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/f14d63/32.png) [@Osman](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Osman)\
**Post date:** [February 15, 2018, 7:51pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/9 "2018-02-15T19:51:50Z")

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Hi,

Which network/application server you are using now? Could you kindly share your experience.

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**Author:** ![ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/f475e1/32.png) [@ad0rs](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/ad0rs)\
**Post date:** [March 13, 2018, 6:44am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/disable-ttn-packet-forwarder-on-boot/12428/10 "2018-03-13T06:44:20Z")

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Hi @Osman  
Sorry for the late reply  
I am using Multitech as a network server (Multitech gateway can be a network server itself)  
And AWS cloud for application server
