# Error fetching Device -\> can't delete Device in Cluster V2

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717>\
**Category:** v2 Backend\
**Created:** [September 22, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717 "2021-09-22T06:07:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/optenda/32/35697_2.png) [@optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/optenda)\
**Post date:** [September 22, 2021, 6:07am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/1 "2021-09-22T06:07:59Z")

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Unfortunately, this device can no longer be deleted in Cluster V2, and thus also not the associated application.  
Is there a solution for this?

The sensor does not come “online” in cluster V3.  
 ![image](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/3X/6/d/6df43fdc2aa948b4281eb33d05070aa8c41138c0.png)  
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**Author:** ![optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/optenda/32/35697_2.png) [@optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/optenda)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:43am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/2 "2021-09-23T05:43:20Z")

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It is not possible to bring the sensor up in Cluster V3.  
I believe it is blocked by Cluster V2

Fyi,  
I am collaborator, with all rights:

- settings
- delete
- devices
- collaborators

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**Author:** ![optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/optenda/32/35697_2.png) [@optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/optenda)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 5:44am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/3 "2021-09-23T05:44:53Z")

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![image](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/3X/a/4/a43e085c46a1e0e07c68ce417eb251db85c4a03a.png)

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**Author:** ![optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/optenda/32/35697_2.png) [@optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/optenda)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:16am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/4 "2021-09-23T07:16:52Z")

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**SOLVED**

Remove the battery for at least 24h or  
Remove the battery, short-circuit the battery terminal (100 Ohm) for at least 10 seconds.  
Measure with a voltmeter until less than 2V is present (capacitors discharged).

Booting takes at least 40 seconds, a short blue flash is seen.  
Then after another 3s short flashing, the join request is thus successfully executed.

![image](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/3X/6/b/6bf7fb3fe166d97359c800f0213db10039b00fc8.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/optenda/32/35697_2.png) [@optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/optenda)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 7:18am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/5 "2021-09-23T07:18:48Z")

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**Author:** ![descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/descartes/32/47220_2.png) [@descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/descartes)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 8:26am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/6 "2021-09-23T08:26:12Z")

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Well done on solving the problem - it would be useful for the community if you told us which sensor it is so anyone else with a similar problem can use this as guidance.

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 9:24am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/7 "2021-09-23T09:24:56Z")

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A Tracknet/TABS/Browan TBHH100 T&H? (OP Pic + internals pic) me thinks…

Basically need to force a rejoin to take new V3 creds…

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**Author:** ![optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/optenda/32/35697_2.png) [@optenda](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/optenda)\
**Post date:** [September 23, 2021, 2:09pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/error-fetching-device-cant-delete-device-in-cluster-v2/51717/8 "2021-09-23T14:09:55Z")

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> [@Jeff-UK](#):
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> TABS/Browan TBHH100

Correct, it is a TABS TBHH100 Temperatur&Humidity Sensor
