# Join requests without accept **URL:** \ **Category:** End Devices (Nodes)\ **Created:** [February 19, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/join-requests-without-accept/34581 "2020-02-19T13:36:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 6
**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/join-requests-without-accept/34581/6 "2020-02-20T15:32:01Z")
Are MartinM and LinkeKlebe the same person? > [@LinkeKlebe](#): > > this (re-using Nonce) would mean that it worked with that network server not with a different one, right? Each network (should) keep track of the DevNonce’s a devices has used. But networks do not know which were used on other networks. If the DevNonce is random, and you’ve not done a lot of joins on TTN yet, then even if one attempt is rejected, chances are that the next is accepted. Also, one can reset the list; see [OTAA shows "Activation DevNonce not valid: already used" - #13 by arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/otaa-shows-activation-devnonce-not-valid-already-used/5079/13). > [@LinkeKlebe](#): > > the Join Request comes only thrice a day, so kind of difficult to get/check the data. If you cannot force a new join (like by removing the battery), does this imply the device is not close to you, and you only checked and re-checked the DevEUI, AppKey and AppEUI in TTN Console? You might want to get an MQTT client running, subscribing to [all events](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/applications/mqtt/), to capture as much debug info as you can. --- _[View the full topic](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/join-requests-without-accept/34581)._