# JSON of mac\_payload misses f\_cnt in case of 0

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**Category:** The Things Stack v3\
**Tags:** gateways\
**Created:** [September 26, 2023, 8:28pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/json-of-mac-payload-misses-f-cnt-in-case-of-0/64934 "2023-09-26T20:28:16Z")\
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**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\
**Post date:** [September 26, 2023, 8:54pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/json-of-mac-payload-misses-f-cnt-in-case-of-0/64934/2 "2023-09-26T20:54:33Z")

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Have you tried forum search? This has been called out a couple of years ago already: [First f\_cnt is empty/null - world wide technical debt in progress](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/first-f-cnt-is-empty-null-world-wide-technical-debt-in-progress/45413)

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