# LGT-92 low GPS accuracy

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321>\
**Category:** Dragino\
**Created:** [September 27, 2019, 11:48pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321 "2019-09-27T23:48:19Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/loratracker/32/48502_2.png) [@LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/LoRaTracker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 3:41pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/21 "2019-10-19T15:41:01Z")

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> [@Zodiac](#):
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> So the worse the reception is, the more differs the position when the tracker does a cold fix.

For a GPS fix from cold, the first fix does often have a much larger position error, this is normal GPS behaviour.

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**Author:** ![wolfp](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/wolfp/32/45304_2.png) [@wolfp](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/wolfp)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 3:59pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/22 "2019-10-19T15:59:20Z")

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Now my LGT-92 is indoor since 3 hours and still delivering 11 position values per hour which are more or less ok. I dont think it makes a cold start every time. Imho it is very hard to find a first fix inside a building.

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**Author:** ![LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/loratracker/32/48502_2.png) [@LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/LoRaTracker)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 4:02pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/23 "2019-10-19T16:02:45Z")

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I was in the pub on Monday evening after the Reading TTN conference.

My L70 GPS equipped TTN tracker got a fix indoors after 2-3 minutes. Only using a small 13mm ceramic patch antenna on the GPSs too.

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**Author:** ![wolfp](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/wolfp/32/45304_2.png) [@wolfp](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/wolfp)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2019, 4:13pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/24 "2019-10-19T16:13:10Z")

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Maybe the L70 is in backup-mode during the sleep-phase of the LGT-92. The current consumption is abt 7uA then.

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**Author:** ![Zodiac](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/zodiac/32/25844_2.png) [@Zodiac](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Zodiac)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2019, 7:15am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/25 "2019-10-27T07:15:25Z")

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As the lgt92 based on open source, maybe someone is able to mod the firmware to keep the L70RL chip in hotfix mode to shorten the time to fix due to higher sensitivity what would save energy as well.  
[https://www.quectel.com/product/l70rl.htm](https://www.quectel.com/product/l70rl.htm)

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**Author:** ![GioBert](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/giobert/32/42380_2.png) [@GioBert](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/GioBert)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 8:44am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/26 "2019-11-27T08:44:21Z")

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Hello everyone!  
I wanted to inform you that I received a preview of this information: the new firmware for Dragino LGT-92 has been released: v1.5

you can download here: [Dragino Download Server ./downloads/LGT\_92/firmware/](http://www.dragino.com/downloads/index.php?dir=LGT_92/firmware/)

here is the changelog:

> Note: Explain for feature detail can be found in manual.
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> v1.5:  
> The v1.5 has a lot of change compare with the previous version. After upload to v1.5, user need to run AT+FDR to reset it to factory default for proper use.  
> \*Add AT+FTIME to set GPS fix timeout  
> \*Set location info to 6 decimal for higher accurancry, Payload structure change.  
> \*Improve positioning accurancry by change the GPS fix logic.  
> \*Support downlink command for change of : AT+CHE, AT+CONFIRM, AT+MD  
> \*Add AT+LON to enable/disable LED flash.  
> \*Add feature, so the tracker will send a uplink packet immedietely when Alarm is active.  
> \*Add movement detect feature.

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**Author:** ![kelu28](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kelu28/32/35697_2.png) [@kelu28](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kelu28)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 10:39am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/27 "2019-11-27T10:39:56Z")

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thanks, I will test tomorow !

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**Author:** ![GioBert](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/giobert/32/42380_2.png) [@GioBert](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/GioBert)\
**Post date:** [November 27, 2019, 5:01pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/28 "2019-11-27T17:01:24Z")

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I have a few problems, look at this: [https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/dragino-lgt-92-lorawan-gps-tracker/21817/52?u=giobert](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/dragino-lgt-92-lorawan-gps-tracker/21817/52)

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**Author:** ![kelu28](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kelu28/32/35697_2.png) [@kelu28](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kelu28)\
**Post date:** [December 21, 2019, 5:25pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/29 "2019-12-21T17:25:01Z")

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Test done today. I have two LGT92. One as ever work well and work well with the new firmware. The second LGT92, never find GPS data. And V1.5 don’t fix it. I know my second LGT92 is break about GPS.

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**Author:** ![wolfp](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/wolfp/32/45304_2.png) [@wolfp](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/wolfp)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 9:34am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/30 "2019-12-22T09:34:48Z")

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I also own a LGT92 and it even finds GPS-signals indoor. Maybe there is something wrong with the GPS-antenna. If you know how to do just open the case and have a look at the antenna and its connection to the board.

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**Author:** ![kelu28](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kelu28/32/35697_2.png) [@kelu28](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kelu28)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2019, 11:32am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/31 "2019-12-22T11:32:42Z")

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Hello. I do what you explain. I know my LGT92 is in default. Edwin have send to me a new lgt92 in remplacement. The new one works very well!

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**Author:** ![micmin1972](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/micmin1972/32/25844_2.png) [@micmin1972](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/micmin1972)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/32 "2021-01-24T21:20:03Z")

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I own a LGT-92 since two months. I also experience a terrible gps accuracy outside (using firmware 1.5); it gives me very often more than 100 meters error.

Is there an AT command to tell this device to only submit a ‘good’ gps measurement (ignore less reliable gps measurements) ?

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**Author:** ![LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/loratracker/32/48502_2.png) [@LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/LoRaTracker)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2021, 9:22pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/33 "2021-01-24T21:22:59Z")

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Unless the GPS knows where it is, how can it know what is a ‘bad’ measurement ?

Could be worth raising the problem with Dragino, its thier product …

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**Author:** ![micmin1972](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/micmin1972/32/25844_2.png) [@micmin1972](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/micmin1972)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 12:52am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/34 "2021-01-25T00:52:59Z")

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well, my phone app navigation shows a red, orange and green gps ‘quality’ indicator icon. Probably the number of satellites used for the position calculation?

I only want to use something like those ‘green’ / good estimates to be transmitted by the lgt-92 , not low quality gps estimates made by a limited amount of satellites that gives me those 100 m errors. Would be great if that accuracy setting could be customized.

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**Author:** ![kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/kersing/32/44777_2.png) [@kersing](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/kersing)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 1:23am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/35 "2021-01-25T01:23:43Z")

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Have you checked the AT command guide? The option to set PDOP seems worth investigating…

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**Author:** ![LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/loratracker/32/48502_2.png) [@LoRaTracker](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/LoRaTracker)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 7:25am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/36 "2021-01-25T07:25:17Z")

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> [@micmin1972](#):
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> well, my phone app navigation shows a red, orange and green gps ‘quality’ indicator icon. Probably the number of satellites used for the position calculation?

Slight confusion here.

The HDOP reported by the GPS gives an indication as to the ‘quality’ of the fix, which is not just related to the number of satellites in use.

What the GPS cannot do is tell you the ‘accuracy’ of the fix i.e. that the fix is for instance +- 50m of the true position.

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:48am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/39 "2021-01-25T09:48:43Z")

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Hello @CABT & welcome to the forum. Please note that the language for the forum is English. If you feel you must post in your own language please also post in English …if in doubt GIYF 🙂

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**Author:** ![micmin1972](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/micmin1972/32/25844_2.png) [@micmin1972](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/micmin1972)\
**Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:54am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/40 "2021-01-25T09:54:01Z")

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Thanks for the tip! Seems pdop default value is 3.0. So, now I just set a new value to 2.0 and let me see if gives better results.

Btw, I use the downlink payload to set new settings and could not find info about this pdop format. Found out from github AT+PDOP has downlink code AD and the message value must be multiplied by 10 before making it a 3 bytes hex

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**Author:** ![steinamo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/steinamo/32/35697_2.png) [@steinamo](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/steinamo)\
**Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 11:20pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/41 "2021-01-26T23:20:25Z")

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@micmin1972 Looks like Dragino has added support for HDOP in the latest firmware version:

[http://www.dragino.com/downloads/downloads/LGT\_92/LGT-92\_LoRa\_GPS\_Tracker\_UserManual\_v1.6.4.pdf](http://www.dragino.com/downloads/downloads/LGT_92/LGT-92_LoRa_GPS_Tracker_UserManual_v1.6.4.pdf)

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**Author:** ![engelking](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/engelking/32/46323_2.png) [@engelking](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/engelking)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2021, 12:01am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lgt-92-low-gps-accuracy/30321/42 "2021-01-27T00:01:18Z")

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Since the update either latitude or longitude is always 0  
Glad that i changed TTNMapper integration for the apllication into an experiment.  
[The result](https://ttnmapper.org/experiments/?experiment=hek_lgt92_164) looks strange.

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