# LoRaWAN duty cycle abuse

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lorawan-duty-cycle-abuse/5945>\
**Category:** LoRaWAN Discussions\
**Created:** [March 9, 2017, 9:47am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lorawan-duty-cycle-abuse/5945 "2017-03-09T09:47:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\
**Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:49am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/lorawan-duty-cycle-abuse/5945/25 "2017-09-29T10:49:20Z")

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> [@htdvisser](#):
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> This indeed seems to be the backend desperately trying to get that device off SF12 using ADR.

Like you wrote elsewhere: TTN deployed a fix to send commands on SF12 if a node is erroneously expecting RX2 to use the LoRaWAN default SF12 rather than [the TTN EU868 SF9](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/wiki/LoRaWAN/Frequencies/Frequency-Plans#lorawan-frequencies_eu863-870), and is not responding to the SF9 ADR command.

This specific node is now at SF8, since it received the new 22 bytes network settings on SF12 at 11:57 below, after the earlier 17 bytes message on SF9 did not make the node change its settings:

 ![image](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/8/86e6125e2c5299f4422a7cfea6ce0c343fb9ef91.jpg)

Still then, new abuse or bug: the node is not doing any channel hopping anymore ☹

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