New gateway: The Things Indoor Gateway

Seems to be 0 Ohm resistor, as measured as 0 Ohm resistance.

Detailled photo might expose a UART Inferface:

Antenna CON1 EU_US_Jumper TP1 TP3TP4TP5 UART UFL-Connector USBC


ok finally got it. I found EUI in its page and add it in the console registration page! Now is online.

After this morning :slight_smile:
Online, get data from it. So it works
Now look how we get more info out off the GEMTEK-box
Powered over USB-C are 230 volt connection both are working well.
Thanks DMTH for the look inside

The four solder pads in a row certainly looks like a good candidate for being a UART interface.

Maybe the “also available” version is 433MHz, or whatever that band is. In an ideal world, there would be differences in passive components leading to the antenna and the antenna itself, between the US and EU versions, but it’s far from an ideal world these days. So many modules for sale that include 2.4ghz wifi antennas, instead of 900MHz antennas, according to actual tests run by people with rf equipment.

I have tested is and it is a UART. Some output.
019-02-02 14:49:46.264 [SYN:INFO] Avg MCU drift vs SX1301#0: 1.0ppm
2019-02-02 14:49:46.283 [SYS:DEBU] Free Heap: 19512 (min=17304) wifi=5 mh=7 cups=8 tc=4
2019-02-02 14:49:47.287 [SYS:DEBU] Free Heap: 19512 (min=17304) wifi=5 mh=7 cups=8 tc=4
2019-02-02 14:49:48.290 [SYS:DEBU] Free Heap: 19512 (min=17304) wifi=5 mh=7 cups=8 tc=4
2019-02-02 14:49:49.294 [SYS:DEBU] Free Heap: 19512 (min=17304) wifi=5 mh=7 cups=8 tc=4
2019-02-02 14:49:50.298 [SYS:DEBU] Free Heap: 19512 (min=17304) wifi=5 mh=7 cups=8 tc=4
2019-02-02 14:49:51.301 [SYS:DEBU] Free Heap: 19512 (min=17304) wifi=5 mh=7 cups=8 tc=4

Pin close to GND is TX from gateway


All gateways I know have (notch) filters so I doubt you can really get a worldwide gateway.

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I have added the wifi ap, selected the legacy packet forwarder and used the mac-address within in the middle part described above, but no connection. Could anyone help?

If anyone’s interrested here’s the datasheet of the onboard antenna.


Or you place it on a small cardboard packing box. With a hole for the USB-c connector :grinning:
Then you can just put it on your desk


ISM or ISM & BT or GPS Stamp Metal Embedded SMT Antenna
868 MHz, 915 MHz, 1.575 GHz, 2.4 GHz

So, it’s actually used/usable for both EU868 and US915?

(@dmth’s pictures with the part number 1002427 are for a EU868 model.)

I needed several attempts also, but now it is working.

Be sure to use the right MAC – not the WiFi STA MAC you can read on the label, but the WiFi AP MAC that is shown on the web interface page bottom. For me it reads “58:A0:xx:xx:xx:xx” in the second line, the first line being “Gateway EUI 58-A0-xx-FF-FE-xx-xx-xx”.
So I typed “58a0xxfffexxxxxx” (lowercase, no hyphens!) into the “Gateway ID” field. It then says “It looks like you are trying to register a gateway by EUI. This probably means you are using the legacy packet forwarder.”, so I checked the “legacy packet forwarder” checkbox.
Registration was no problem then.


I have almost the same, connected to the TTN but no traffic. Green led is most of the time on and so now and then blinking green. All looks fine only no trafic. My nodes are running and see the trafic from different other gw’s. What do I wrong? I see only many join requests when I reset my node on the Tabs, if I switch the Tabs off it needs only one join request. Who knows where I should look?

Just a wild guess: if OTAA Join does not work when the TIG is active, but works great when switching off the TIG, then apparently TTN has selected that TIG for the Join Accept. And somehow that Join Accept is not received by the node:

  • Maybe the selected router in TTN Console’s settings is not correct, adding too much latency for the downlink to arrive at the gateway in time?

  • Maybe the selected frequency plan is wrong (making TTN make wrong choices as for the Join Accept’s downlink settings)?

The above, plus “All looks fine only no trafic” makes me think you actually did not register the gateway correctly, so any configuration you made in TTN Console does not apply to the actual device: check and double-check the EUI?

Do you see any Join Accept in TTN Console, on the device’s Data page? If yes, is the TIG listed in the meta data of the gateways that received that Join Request? (Click on an item in the Data page for more details.)

Any experiences already with the gateway’s performance?

Having the TIG here and a DIY RasPi + IMST iC880A with a small stub antenna, all in the same room with two Heltec ESP32 LoRa nodes running different software (one is PAXcounter that constantly sends packets every 60 seconds after one join, the other is a sensor that wakens up, joins, then sends a packet and goes to sleep again).
Both nodes are received by both gateways. Looking at the Console’s gateway traffic, the TIG has about half as many entries as the RasPi does.
The TIG’s LED stays green mostly, but sometimes it flashes.

Unless I’m mistaken, again, the notch filters are done in an FPGA making them roughly a matter of software (SDR).

Are the channel plans for the RasPI and the TIG the same? I.e. is it always the same channel
where the TIG does not pick up the packet?

Are you only referring to traffic of those nodes? Or does the Raspberry Pi also receive packets from other nodes? (Like more distant nodes with a weaker signal.) And are the nodes at least a few meters away from both gateways?

Beware that gateways are half-duplex, so if the TIG is sending the Join Accept for this node, then it cannot receive uplinks from the other node. But I guess that cannot account for missing many uplinks.

Many thanks. It is connected.

I’d be surprised that’s the case - there are two reference designs available. The cheap way is to use a physical filter, eg Johanson 0868LP15A020E or a TDK B3717 SAW Filter for 868Mhz designs

If no one does one sooner I intend to do a proper teardown - including the removing the RF cans - soon when I’m reunited with my tools. Will let you know :slight_smile: