# Payload problems with OTAA only

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/payload-problems-with-otaa-only/19572>\
**Category:** End Devices (Nodes)\
**Created:** [November 8, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/payload-problems-with-otaa-only/19572 "2018-11-08T14:53:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/arjanvanb/32/46626_2.png) [@arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/arjanvanb)\
**Post date:** [November 8, 2018, 4:35pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/payload-problems-with-otaa-only/19572/4 "2018-11-08T16:35:18Z")

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> [@Neliz](#):
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> every time the device sends a package in ABP it arrives, but in OTAA I can only join but when the device sends payload nothing happens in the things network console

I’m unsure if you still have a question, but once joined, an ABP node behaves the same as an OTAA node. Once joined, there is really no difference in the packets it sends; see also [OTAA then ABP - #5 by arjanvanb](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/otaa-then-abp/12377/5).

Any chance you’re using a single-channel test gateway?

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