# Santiago, Chile **URL:** \ **Category:** Find people from your city or area\ **Created:** [July 15, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826 "2016-07-15T22:21:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![pgallardop](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/pgallardop/32/29335_2.png) [@pgallardop](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/pgallardop)\ **Post date:** [July 15, 2016, 10:21pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/1 "2016-07-15T22:21:00Z")
Hello there, I am looking into creating a Lorawan Network in Santiago, Chile, which could later be used to implement IoT applications in different areas. Who can kindly give some advice where to start looking for information regarding the implementation plan, hardware, issues, resources, teams, etc. Thanks very much Patricio Gallardo P. patricio.gallardo@innovosen.cl Cel +56994691778 www.innovosen.cl ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 1:24am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/2 "2018-02-09T01:24:20Z")
Hola Patricio! Nosotros nos estamos sumando a TTN. ¿Cómo te ha ido con LoRaWAN? Saludos, Andrés ---
**Author:** ![astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/astroza/32/33958_2.png) [@astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/astroza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 1:59am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/3 "2018-02-11T01:59:17Z")
Hola @awagner, Que frecuencias estas usando para tu GW? saludos ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 2:28am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/4 "2018-02-11T02:28:27Z")
We are using the US config: US902-928. What has been your experience with LoRaWAN so far? ---
**Author:** ![astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/astroza/32/33958_2.png) [@astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/astroza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 4:03am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/6 "2018-02-11T04:03:19Z")
@awagner echale un vistazo a esto [https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/community/santiago/post/subtel-y-frecuencias-disponibles](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/community/santiago/post/subtel-y-frecuencias-disponibles) ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 1:13pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/7 "2018-02-11T13:13:53Z")
Excellent contribution Patricio! A pity that part of the range has been tendered. What do you think if we assemble and publish a CL\_local\_conf.json for Chile? ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 3:09pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/8 "2018-02-11T15:09:41Z")
Hi Patricio, This is the frequency we configured. Any comments? INFO: radio 0 enabled (type SX1257), center frequency 921500000, RSSI offset -166.000000, tx enabled 1 INFO: radio 1 enabled (type SX1257), center frequency 922300000, RSSI offset -166.000000, tx enabled 0 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 0\> radio 0, IF -300000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 1\> radio 0, IF -100000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 2\> radio 0, IF 100000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 3\> radio 0, IF 300000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 4\> radio 1, IF -300000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 5\> radio 1, IF -100000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 6\> radio 1, IF 100000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora multi-SF channel 7\> radio 1, IF 300000 Hz, 125 kHz bw, SF 7 to 12 INFO: Lora std channel\> radio 0, IF 300000 Hz, 500000 Hz bw, SF 8 ---
**Author:** ![BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/borroz/32/44234_2.png) [@BoRRoZ](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/BoRRoZ)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 3:10pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/9 "2018-02-11T15:10:55Z")
Hola Andres english please 🕶 ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 3:41pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/10 "2018-02-11T15:41:55Z")
Sure, just give me a second 😉 ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 3:58pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/11 "2018-02-11T15:58:25Z")
Hi Patricio, take a look at [this document from the SubTel](http://www.subtel.gob.cl/transparencia/Perfiles/Transparencia20285/Normativas/Resoluciones/14r_791.pdf). Apparently it is clear for the SubTel that the 902-928 range can’t be considered as exclusive in any way, as: “many industrial, scientific and medical equipments are using it”. The Subtel also goes further and states that, “anyone operating in this band has to accept the interference that is now assumed to be part of this band”. This documents is dated March 2014… before the one you mentioned which is dated December 2014. In my opinion this is another demonstration off poor/lack government management around these “modern issues”, where first everyone is allowed to use a certain frequency band, and at the same time the government agency is tendering part of it. Certainly the worst part of it is the point where it states that: “is responsibility of the interested part in avoiding those interferences”, which clearly translates into cases like the one you mentioned, where one of the biggest telecommunication companies in Chile is demanding a home-owner for using some surveillance cameras at his home. Only in Chile… ![Extracto_Resoluciones_14r_791](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1d26437a5d78a6b2bea1a33ce65e49f80ad684b2.png) ---
**Author:** ![astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/astroza/32/33958_2.png) [@astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/astroza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/12 "2018-02-11T16:31:45Z")
hey @awagner , I’m Felipe, I don’t know why you call me Patricio 😛 Yes, maybe we need an organization [https://www.eff.org](https://www.eff.org) like to protect some electronic rights. We should take care of keep 915-928 as ISM band at least. Regarding the gateway conf, I think Australian config fits to Chile laws. Should we adopt AU-global\_conf.json for Chile? ---
**Author:** ![astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/astroza/32/33958_2.png) [@astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/astroza)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 5:39pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/13 "2018-02-11T17:39:48Z")
Hi again, I have news: 1. I set up a gateway bridge in Chile to reduce traffic latency, to use national traffic only on gateway devices and help to collect network statistics. The hostname is [thethings.cl.beehub.io](http://thethings.cl.beehub.io) . It is hosted on a Data center at Curico, Region del Maule, Chile. 2. I made a pull request to TTN for including a CL config [https://github.com/TheThingsNetwork/gateway-conf/pull/31](https://github.com/TheThingsNetwork/gateway-conf/pull/31) The config is based on Australian one Also you can get it from here: [https://github.com/Orixen/gateway-conf/blob/master/CL-global\_conf.json](https://github.com/Orixen/gateway-conf/blob/master/CL-global_conf.json) Cheers ---
**Author:** ![awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/awagner/32/12860_2.png) [@awagner](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/awagner)\ **Post date:** [February 11, 2018, 6:13pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/14 "2018-02-11T18:13:17Z")
> [@astroza](#): > > AU-global\_conf.json Brilliant @astroza. Australia is leading in many other ways too, we should follow their path. Great work! ---
**Author:** ![iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iegomez/32/11793_2.png) [@iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iegomez)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 1:44pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/15 "2018-02-12T13:44:23Z")
Hi, guys. With @dhinojosacm we too have been working with Lora for some months now and we own 3 different gateways. We set them up using the US conf example, i.e.: ```auto "SX1301_conf": { "lorawan_public": true, "clksrc": 0, "clksrc_desc": "radio_0 provides clock to concentrator", "antenna_gain": 0, "antenna_gain_desc": "antenna gain, in dBi", "radio_0": { "enable": true, "type": "SX1257", "freq": 904300000, "rssi_offset": -166, "tx_enable": true, "tx_freq_min": 923000000, "tx_freq_max": 928000000 }, "radio_1": { "enable": true, "type": "SX1257", "freq": 905000000, "rssi_offset": -166, "tx_enable": false }, "chan_multiSF_0": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 903.9 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 0, "if": -400000 }, "chan_multiSF_1": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 904.1 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 0, "if": -200000 }, "chan_multiSF_2": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 904.3 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 0, "if": 0 }, "chan_multiSF_3": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 904.5 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 0, "if": 200000 }, "chan_multiSF_4": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 904.7 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 1, "if": -300000 }, "chan_multiSF_5": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 904.9 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 1, "if": -100000 }, "chan_multiSF_6": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 905.1 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 1, "if": 100000 }, "chan_multiSF_7": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 125kHz, all SF, 905.3 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 1, "if": 300000 }, "chan_Lora_std": { "desc": "Lora MAC, 500kHz, SF8, 904.6 MHz", "enable": true, "radio": 0, "if": 300000, "bandwidth": 500000, "spread_factor": 8 }, "chan_FSK": { "desc": "FSK disabled", "enable": false }, "tx_lut_0": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 0", "pa_gain": 0, "mix_gain": 8, "rf_power": -6, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_1": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 1", "pa_gain": 0, "mix_gain": 10, "rf_power": -3, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_2": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 2", "pa_gain": 0, "mix_gain": 12, "rf_power": 0, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_3": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 3", "pa_gain": 1, "mix_gain": 8, "rf_power": 3, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_4": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 4", "pa_gain": 1, "mix_gain": 10, "rf_power": 6, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_5": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 5", "pa_gain": 1, "mix_gain": 12, "rf_power": 10, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_6": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 6", "pa_gain": 1, "mix_gain": 13, "rf_power": 11, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_7": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 7", "pa_gain": 2, "mix_gain": 9, "rf_power": 12, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_8": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 8", "pa_gain": 1, "mix_gain": 15, "rf_power": 13, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_9": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 9", "pa_gain": 2, "mix_gain": 10, "rf_power": 14, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_10": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 10", "pa_gain": 2, "mix_gain": 11, "rf_power": 16, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_11": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 11", "pa_gain": 3, "mix_gain": 10, "rf_power": 20, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_12": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 12", "pa_gain": 3, "mix_gain": 11, "rf_power": 23, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_13": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 13", "pa_gain": 3, "mix_gain": 12, "rf_power": 24, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_14": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 14", "pa_gain": 3, "mix_gain": 13, "rf_power": 25, "dig_gain": 0 }, "tx_lut_15": { "desc": "TX gain table, index 15", "pa_gain": 3, "mix_gain": 15, "rf_power": 26, "dig_gain": 0 } } ``` We weren’t aware of any limitations regarding this range, and apart from the resolution @astroza linked, haven’t seen any reports on it. Do you have any more information about this? Also, we were under the impression that Chile uses the US 902-928 band, as seen [here](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/wiki/LoRaWAN/Frequencies/By-Country), [here](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/countries-supporting-sub-bands-of-915mhz/1139/9) or [here](http://faiot2017.inria.cl/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/Charla-LoRaWAN-WorkShop-IoT-PUC-INRIA.pdf), and that’s why at the beginning we set our gateways following that configuration. ---
**Author:** ![iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iegomez/32/11793_2.png) [@iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iegomez)\ **Post date:** [February 12, 2018, 2:16pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/16 "2018-02-12T14:16:21Z")
I just found the modification to the grant that is cited in the resolution [here](https://www.leychile.cl/Navegar?idNorma=1047549). Similarly to what @awagner cited, it states the following: `3. El uso de la bandas de frecuencia asignadas deberá aceptar la interferencia perjudicial resultante de aplicaciones industriales, científicas y médicas (ICM) que operen en la banda 902 - 928 MHz, conforme a lo dispuesto en la Nota 42 del Cuadro de Atribución de Bandas de Frecuencias, del Plan General de Uso del Espectro Radioeléctrico, aprobado por decreto supremo Nº127, de 2006, del Ministerio de Transportes y Telecomunicaciones, y sus modificaciones` I haven’t found something that refers to this decree, and as I understand it, it states that though there is a grant, they have to cope with use of the band by third parties. If someone can provide more recent information or any modifications to his or other decrees, that’d be great. ---
**Author:** ![astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/astroza/32/33958_2.png) [@astroza](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/astroza)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 10:17am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/17 "2018-02-13T10:17:54Z")
I saw that but the fact is Subtel from 2014 [1] is asking to stop transmission on 902.1-912.1 range. What I don’t want is once we are deployed a network along chilean territory someone comes to us to stop the project. There is a preceding complaint and resolution from Subtel, what could be different in our case ? Would it be a good idea to ask directly to Subtel about this misunderstanding ? o maybe, meet to AUTOMOTRIZ PETRIC to know how they handled the requirement. just in case, we still have two available plans AU915 and AS923 to evaluate [1] [http://www.subtel.gob.cl/transparencia/Perfiles/Transparencia20285/Normativas/Oficios/14oo\_13939.pdf](http://www.subtel.gob.cl/transparencia/Perfiles/Transparencia20285/Normativas/Oficios/14oo_13939.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iegomez/32/11793_2.png) [@iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iegomez)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2018, 12:57pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/18 "2018-02-13T12:57:37Z")
> [@astroza](#): > > Would it be a good idea to ask directly to Subtel about this misunderstanding ? I think that’s the key. We have no problem with switching ranges, but it’d be good to know if there are real limitations or not, since everything we’ve seen dates from 2014. Who’s to tell that later on they don’t grant another range to someone else and we must keep switching? Are they even able to do that? What could we as a whole community do against it? Those are the things that concern me if indeed that range is banned for our use. Anyway, we’ll let you know if we find anything else. ---
**Author:** ![iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/iegomez/32/11793_2.png) [@iegomez](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/iegomez)\ **Post date:** [April 5, 2018, 12:14am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/19 "2018-04-05T00:14:17Z")
Hi, guys. @dhinojosacm, from work, created a Telegram group called LoRaWAN Chile so that we can discuss everything involving LoRa adn LoRaWAN, not only TTN, and share our experiences. You can find the group here: [https://t.me/LorawanChile](https://t.me/LorawanChile). Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![mferreyra](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/mferreyra/32/24562_2.png) [@mferreyra](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/mferreyra)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 5:52pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/20 "2019-05-08T17:52:08Z")
HI, I believe it is better to ask the question here than to create another new topic becuase you already spoke about my doubt. Do you know if there is some update about the LoraWAN frequencies? I was not able to find any. Thank you in advance! Best Regards Marta ---
**Author:** ![dhinojosacm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/dhinojosacm/32/26080_2.png) [@dhinojosacm](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/dhinojosacm)\ **Post date:** [May 8, 2019, 10:14pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826/21 "2019-05-08T22:14:45Z")
Hi all, the name of the group was changed to [https://t.me/LorawanLatam](https://t.me/LorawanLatam) ! Cheers! [Next page](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/santiago-chile/2826.md?page=2)