# The LIBRARY basement part 12

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682>\
**Category:** Uncategorized\
**Created:** [November 13, 2019, 1:19pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682 "2019-11-13T13:19:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 6\
**Page:** 12

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [September 19, 2023, 4:34pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682/228 "2023-09-19T16:34:19Z")

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After some ~5 years of discussion and specification evolution its sounds like **LoRaWAN Relay** final ‘here’ and in real world use in a commercial deployment/solution…

[https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230919241754/en/](https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230919241754/en/)

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 8:48am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682/229 "2023-09-20T08:48:55Z")

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3 posts were merged into an existing topic: [LoRaWAN Relay Discussion Thread](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/t/lorawan-relay-discussion-thread/64847/2)

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [September 20, 2023, 8:52am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682/230 "2023-09-20T08:52:18Z")

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Moved LoRaWAN Relay discusion to seperate dedicated thread to preserve integrity of Library Threads as generally points of information, reference and interest with wider scope that may benefit TTN/LoRaWAN and associated technologies and information.

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [February 17, 2024, 11:01am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682/231 "2024-02-17T11:01:56Z")

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Probably not an issue for users of the TTN/TTS Sandbox, more of interest/concern for users of TTS at scale in private or hosted instances? Unless just using TTS Sandbox for development before moving to scale of course…

> **[Microsoft 'retires' Azure IoT Central in platform rethink](https://www.theregister.com/2024/02/15/microsoft_retires_azure_iot_central/?td=rt-3a)**
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> After March, devs won’t be able to create new application resources, in 2027 the system will be shut down

Another example of ‘cloud’ = someone elses computer and how their ‘vision’ may not match yours! 😉 Another ‘Integration’ path bites the dust…

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [October 2, 2024, 6:44pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682/232 "2024-10-02T18:44:09Z")

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Looks like CISCO announced they are exiting the LoRaWAN market. Despite the tone of the article we Forumites know how healthy the LoRaWAN ecosystem is and how many alternate GW and sensor offerings there are out there so existing C customers don’t need to panic and it’s an opportunity for us to give some help and guidance 🤔 🙂 👍

> **[Cisco is abandoning the LoRaWAN space](https://www.theregister.com/2024/10/02/cisco_exiting_lorawan/)**
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> Support stretches to end of 2029, no more maintenance beyond 2026

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**Author:** ![Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/jeff-uk/32/35697_2.png) [@Jeff-UK](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/Jeff-UK)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2025, 12:10am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-library-basement-part-12/31682/233 "2025-03-11T00:10:34Z")

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Next Gen LoRa device - LR2021

> **[LR2021](https://www.semtech.com/products/wireless-rf/lora-plus/lr2021#resources)**
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> Using fourth-generation LoRa® IP supporting both terrestrial and SATCOM networks in the sub-GHz, 2.4 GHz ISM bands and licensed S-band.

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