# The Things Conference Amsterdam, 2022 - Informal Info/Pictures/Discussion Thread

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**Category:** The Things Conference\
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**Created:** [September 21, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959 "2022-09-21T20:09:43Z")\
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Apologies to IoT Creators for this fuzzy mess:

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There was a big stand for some outfit called Semtech but as I wasn’t besuited the marketing force field wouldn’t let me near it 😉

That and they didn’t give me an LR1110 development kit, not that I wanted such out of date tech anyway, the LR1120 is where it’s at now, so I may or may not have forgotten to take a picture. But they didn’t have much anyway - Suits roaming the stand looking for prey + some big screens showing corporate stuff.

The TTI stand had lots of comfy chairs so I couldn’t take pictures as too many people having a siesta on it. But great chocolate bars.

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**Additional pictures of note**

The show offer from Sensational Systems:

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The rather worrying safety posters in the stair wells:

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Someone having a baby outside the hotel:

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The best pizza I’ve had in years:

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Chef & family are from Naples, enough said.

And finally, if the Eurostar has to stop because of an issue in the tunnel, here’s the last gasp place to do it:

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 12:34pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/29 "2022-09-26T12:34:00Z")

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To compensate for the missing TTI stand picture, here’s one with the lovely Nick on full display talking to a fine man handing out vouchers:  
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Best Swag award goes to InfluxData for providing two pairs of socks. Second best to Tektelic for one pair of socks. Ignion get special mention for the water bottle & straw combo.

Best forum meet up was with @Ichthus_College_Info as Steven bought chocolate!

Best workshop giveaway was a Lacuna.Space LS300 device which I have running in the garden now.

Most ambitious workshop plan is joint equal for Lacuna.Space & TTI GNSE.

Fastest workshop content download goes to @adrianmares on LR-FHSS - 35 minutes drinking from a fire hose - he will also be nominated for the next Bond movie as the Evil Genius techy.

Proud father award goes to @johan who seemed happy to have two days break from nappy changing - looking forward to Johan Junior’s keynote explaining the new stack features next year.

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> [@Ichthus\_College\_Info](#):
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> here’s one with the lovely Nick on full display talking to a fine man handing out vouchers

I guess you must have taken that “on approach”.

@cndrxn was on a high as he’d got his award winning (see above) workshop done, and myself & Steven scored a voucher each for a Seeed Sensor kit (Wio display, LoRa-E5, camera, other sensors etc)

You have to be in it to win it!

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**Post date:** [September 26, 2022, 12:59pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/32 "2022-09-26T12:59:49Z")

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> [@descartes](#):
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> he will also be nominated for the next Bond movie as the Evil Genius techy.

What not ‘Q’s’ sidekick (or replacement?

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> [@Jeff-UK](#):
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> What not ‘Q’s’ sidekick (or replacement)?

Not with his deep voiced Romanian accent - move over Goldfinger, there’s someone else to deliver that famous line: “No, I expect you to die!”

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**Post date:** [September 28, 2022, 4:53pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/34 "2022-09-28T16:53:26Z")

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I’m glad you liked the new payload normalization feature. I was the one who proposed it back in March, and I’ve been discussing the requirements and design of it ever since: [Enforce a standard format for decoded sensor data · Issue #395 · TheThingsNetwork/lorawan-devices · GitHub](https://github.com/TheThingsNetwork/lorawan-devices/issues/395)

Thanks to the beauty of open source (and the superb work of @johan and the team) it’s a reality today. From what I have seen, it has been very well received among TTC22 visitors (at least the developers). Business people from different competing integrators may see this as a threat because right now they have their own solutions that do something similar and promote them as added value.

For me and many open-minded developers, I think this is a no-brainer. There are many benefits to having a common, well-defined format, hopefully standardized by a trusted entity such as the LoRaWAN Alliance or TTN itself, and then adopted by the industry.

Ideally, more stakeholders should be involved in defining this format, as it is difficult to get standards that fit everyone well, but the more people involved and contributing in the early stages of development, the better.

Please, everyone, feel free to stop by the related GitHub issues and PRs and leave your comments there.

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:32pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/35 "2022-09-29T19:32:00Z")

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> [@descartes](#):
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> Best workshop giveaway was a Lacuna.Space LS300 device which I have running in the garden now.

Ok spill the beans. 😉

Cant find any information in the [documentation](https://www.thethingsindustries.com/docs/getting-started/) nor [Lacuna Space](https://lacuna.space/)

@telkamp @johan

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**Post date:** [September 29, 2022, 7:42pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/36 "2022-09-29T19:42:30Z")

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[See one of the features is](https://www.prweb.com/releases/2022/04/prweb18617563.htm)

“The LS300 has a party trick: in addition to being a standalone sensor device, it also supports “Relay mode” allowing up to 5 standard (sub-GHz terrestrial) LoRaWAN devices to connect through to the satellite service”

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> [@Johan\_Scheepers](#):
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> supports “Relay mode” allowing up to 5 standard (sub-GHz terrestrial) LoRaWAN devices to connec

Interesting, either the standard nodes need to use a single frequency and spreading factor to reach the relay, or the relay is able to scan multiple frequencies and spreading factors to receive messages, making it a mini gateway (without multiple receive paths)

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> [@Johan\_Scheepers](#):
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> Cant find any information in the [documentation](https://www.thethingsindustries.com/docs/getting-started/)

The docs are for TTI, this is someone else’s baby.

> [@Johan\_Scheepers](#):
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> it also supports “Relay mode”

That’s from PRWeb - reality as far as I’ve ascertained is that it’s a form of Point to Point on a fixed frequency & SF - more for slave sensors than for actual LoRaWAN relay.

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 4:10am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/39 "2022-09-30T04:10:35Z")

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> [@descartes](#):
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> The docs are for TTI, this is someone else’s baby

I looked at Lacuna Space website as well no information, so where is it hidden?

They did it as a joint announcement, the screen shot that were shown, looked like standard integration like EU1, AU1 and NAM1.

Or are we back at the Spanish 😉

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**Post date:** [September 30, 2022, 8:20am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/the-things-conference-amsterdam-2022-informal-info-pictures-discussion-thread/58959/40 "2022-09-30T08:20:55Z")

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> [@Johan\_Scheepers](#):
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> Or are we back at the Spanish

No, we are in 007 territory - if I tell you, I have to kill you after.

There is no secret sauce in a LoRa P2P relay and that’s not the headline act, the really cool stuff is that you can take a recent hardware build (ie SX126X), add a GNSS module, use a recent LoRaMac-node, add some extras to the firmware transmission mode for LR-FHSS, have the right antenna pointing up and et voila, LoRaWAN via satellite. Lacuna provide a pre-built bit of hardware to get started, stock coming soon(ish). Medium term we will be able to get antennas and reference designs so you can create your own hardware.

The you can drive out in to the bushveld / sandy areas and deploy a device without having to worry about gateways or backhauls etc.

> [@Johan\_Scheepers](#):
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> looked like standard integration like EU1, AU1 and NAM1.

Yup, it arrives in your TTS console just like any other uplink. Part of the reason being is that the device can still do terrestrial, so you can run local gateways but if they go offline, switch to satellite. And partly as if you are going to leverage LoRa for your comms, you may as well use what’s there as infrastructure.

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