# Token Exchange refused Error

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**Created:** [November 25, 2020, 4:30pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/token-exchange-refused-error/41643 "2020-11-25T16:30:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![dsmith](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/dsmith/32/25844_2.png) [@dsmith](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/dsmith)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2020, 3:44am UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/token-exchange-refused-error/41643/22 "2020-12-11T03:44:27Z")

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Good to hear you got it all running in the end. Likewise, I was having issues with stacked VMs so I ended up just running docker directly in windows (rather than in a ubuntu vm) to get it working. The stacked VMs are a pain, but glad to see you’ve worked out a way around that.

There was some further discussion between benolayinka and myself in [the other thread](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/thethingsstack-v3-8-7-with-self-signed-certificate-forbidden-token-exchange-refused/38902/32) on self-signed certs, and benolayinka is updating the docs with the missing instructions.

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