# Wich type of gateways

**URL:** <https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235>\
**Category:** Gateways\
**Created:** [July 1, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235 "2020-07-01T17:02:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/lloureiro/32/25844_2.png) [@lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/lloureiro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:02pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/1 "2020-07-01T17:02:00Z")

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Hello,

Maybe this is a dumb question: Wich type of gateways can i register at TTN? Only LoraWan Gateways? Or booth, Lora and LoRaWan gateways?

Thanks

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**Author:** ![descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/descartes/32/47220_2.png) [@descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/descartes)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:05pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/2 "2020-07-01T17:05:18Z")

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There are no LoRa gateways - that would be a LoRa device talking to another LoRa device that happens to have some other connection to the world on it - and that has nothing that can talk to a LoRaWAN Network server.

Therefore you can only register a LoRaWAN gateway.

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**Author:** ![cslorabox](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/cslorabox/32/35697_2.png) [@cslorabox](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/cslorabox)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:40pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/3 "2020-07-01T17:40:41Z")

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“LoRa Gateway” is sort of a polite euphemism for an overpriced node radio or two doing a terrible job of impersonating a fraction of a LoRaWAN gateway.

They’re not LoRaWAN gateways, and while it is theoretically possible, most are relatively unlikely to be correctly used as anything else either… **mostly they are traps for the unwary buyer**.

I prefer “fakeway” or “single channel abomination” a few others say “single channel packet forwarder” which seems to be excessively charitable, as they’re not only single-channel but also single spreading factor.

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**Author:** ![lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/lloureiro/32/25844_2.png) [@lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/lloureiro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:44pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/4 "2020-07-01T17:44:44Z")

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Yeah, this only allows device to device conection, right? “Gateway” like this

![image](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/3X/f/8/f8deee85d9753798a93c5acc465984b1c5a417ce.png)

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**Author:** ![descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/descartes/32/47220_2.png) [@descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/descartes)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/5 "2020-07-01T17:58:07Z")

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> [@cslorabox](#):
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> “LoRa Gateway” is sort of a polite euphemism for an overpriced node radio or two doing a terrible job of impersonating a fraction of a LoRaWAN gateway.

I wasn’t going to mention them, you’ve opened your own Pandora’s box.

> [@lloureiro](#):
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> Yeah, this only allows device to device conection, right? “Gateway” like this

Step away from the fakeway - it will make your FiPy hurt and the whole of your city’s LoRaWAN will go off line and puppies will go hungry …

Please don’t share pictures like that again - it makes grown men cry!

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**Author:** ![cslorabox](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/cslorabox/32/35697_2.png) [@cslorabox](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/cslorabox)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 5:58pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/6 "2020-07-01T17:58:14Z")

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> [@lloureiro](#):
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> Yeah, this only allows device to device conection, right? “Gateway” like this

Realistically that is not useful for much at all… maybe if you are really lucky there is some half thought through demo, maybe…

If you want to do peer to peer things, simply buy nodes, they’re far cheaper anyway. (You’d probably use RadioHead or similar as your software starting point)

But note that peer-to-peer LoRa is not on topic here.

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**Author:** ![descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/descartes/32/47220_2.png) [@descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/descartes)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/7 "2020-07-01T18:08:29Z")

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@lloureiro is experiencing strangeness on [another thread](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/only-activation-messages-from-fipy/38233/10) with OTAA accepted but his device isn’t hearing the join accept. But oddly, an ABP message doesn’t get through. So he’s probably looking for a gateway he can control.

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**Author:** ![lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/lloureiro/32/25844_2.png) [@lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/lloureiro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:10pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/8 "2020-07-01T18:10:31Z")

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My gateway its public one from academic institution, not my 🙂

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**Author:** ![descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/descartes/32/47220_2.png) [@descartes](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/descartes)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:11pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/9 "2020-07-01T18:11:28Z")

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> [@lloureiro](#):
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> My gateway its public one from academic institution

Guessed that - or you have a 70m long house!

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**Author:** ![lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/user_avatar/www.thethingsnetwork.org/lloureiro/32/25844_2.png) [@lloureiro](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/u/lloureiro)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2020, 6:20pm UTC](https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/t/wich-type-of-gateways/38235/10 "2020-07-01T18:20:02Z")

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> [@descartes](#):
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> Guessed that - or you have a 70m long house!

😅
