Time to take it somewhere way out of range of the other RF devices to eliminate any possibility of interference.
Agreed - I was thinking quite similarly. I’ll see if I can do that sometime today and report in.
Ok I moved the lps8 to my barn (all wood sides - metal roof) - and took the lda02 with me to test. The barn is 30 by 30 - so I had the gateway on 1 side and the lda02 about 20’ from the lps8 - see results. No difference. 
The lps8 is setup for band 2 - just a quick note -
An RSSI of -131 and an SNR of -12.8 sounds like very weak signals, long distance or poor or no antennas, faulty modules etc.
If interferance was a major issue you might expect the SNR to be poor, but with a stronger RSSI.
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roger - and considering there is no antenna for me to mess with on the lds02 - and it’s brand new out of the box - I’d assume the problem has to be on the lps8’s end. I 120% made sure not run the lps8 without the antenna. It was new, sealed in the box when I bought if off ebay. I made sure the antenna on the new lps8 (and the used one I bought before as well) are as hand tight without being crazy about it, tight on the unit. 3 nodes, 2 gateways and all show the same issue. I’m so puzzled. Thanks for hanging in there with me everyone - I sure do appreciate it! I’m also in contact with Dragino as well in the background.
Can I try one of the antennas from the lds03a on the lps8 gateway or will it damage anything. I tried twisting it on (with no power) and noted it seats much further than the stock antenna that came with the lps8
The black antenna is off the lda03a
The white one is the stock that came with the lps8 - note the gap.
In theory yes…. It will depend if sma male, sma female or rp-sma m or RPi-sma f……. A picture paints a 1000 words! Gap irrelevant as will depend on the specific mechanical design of any given ant……
I gave it a shot - put the lds03a ant on the lps8 - no change…in fact, somewhat worse - I had to stand like 2 ft from it to get it to send anything to the gateway.
You need to switch to CHE=2. Your node is currently using 64 channels where the gateway listens at only 8.
This should be CHE=1 for 8 channel mode.
I noticed all uplinks you show are at the same frequency (905.3), the last one of the channels used by TTN. It is almost like your nodes are using the next set of frequencies. Check if your nodes use the frequencies listed at https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/lorawan/frequency-plans/
@kersing - I was super excited - I thought you were on to something here - but same after setting lds03a to AT+CHE1
From the serial of lds03a -
Look at the TX frequencies and compare to the page I linked to. The node is using the wrong frequencies.
Ok, gotcha. Unfortunately im out of town for the next few days, will follow up as soon as i get back! Thanks as always!
Are you sure your gateway is connected to server?
Your gateway ID is not a secrete, it is public knowledge. Can you please supply it so we can see if it’s connected?
I have a suspicion you are connecting to another gateway some way off. Not that it is something wrong with that as all gateways are open for any one on the TTN network, they are community gateways.
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I’m not using TTN - I’m using a chirpstack server here at my house. There are no TTN servers close to me at all to use.
Is this still the case even if I’m using Chirpstack?
Stumbled into something tonight - see attached pics. I am using Chirpstack - I’ve been out on vacation and obviously have not done anything since being gone. I logged into the chirpstack server (RPI 3) I’m working on all this with - noted it needed some Ubuntu updates - ran apt update/upgrade and noted it updated chirpstack and restarted it as a result of new updates.
So after it was done - I tried the lds03a again -turned it on - saw the join at -36 rssi and I was like wow! So let’s see what happens if I send an open/close with the end node now. It dropped right down to -121. So it ‘feels’ like the ADR might be sending something funny from Chirpstack to change the power/channels etc. Screenshots to follow.
Join Request:
Join Accept:
Node Sending Open/Close Data:
Then this is an off topic subject for this TTN forum ?
Why would there be discussion about chirpstack servers in here ?
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It’s not about proximity of the servers….they can be, and often are, continents away. It’s proximity to GWs that matter, and in this case you appear to have one! If you are using Chirpstack that again suggests you have a gateway. Just as we discussed at length at the start of the thread……so this is the TTN forum, funded by TTI, for users of the TTS(CE) primarily or other TTS instances as needed.
Please either move your GW to TTN, or move your support requests to the Chirpstack forum 
Annoying for the TTN volunteers here as you did not declare this in your OP or shortly after….at least before we all committed our valuable time. Still some of the LOS/range coverage issues and discussions may benefit others who stumble across in the future. With no TTN connection this thread will be closed shortly.