Recommended Gateway Alternatives to the Things Gateway - €300 - €900


(Nestor Ayuso) #74

small review of the $150 Tektelic Pico here:


#75

hard-coded in opendns as a resolver (208.67.222.222) and starts looking up pool.ntp.org and tek-ns-us.thingsboard.io:thinking:


(Radek Vozák) #76

@jimrm @shiv maybe you can take a look for our outdoor GW LORATECH. We have a reduction board with proper stabilization on power input. I post some pictures here: https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/4/48d09c10c33086f29d7ea0a8992a01f971a33f3a.JPG
https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/forum/uploads/default/original/2X/4/4cc4bf4d67c4cf6e3397c2318ca410102379f803.JPG

We have 25 GW in Pilsen - instaled outdoor - biuldings, smokestacks etc (5-50m POE) - working over 1 year without problem.

R.


(Reinier van der Lee) #77
  • @shiv Received the Laird today. The setup using WiFi did not work, even after pressing the button, I could not see the SSID. Used Ethernet to get access to the gateway. Have you seen that at any of your Laird gateways?
    Finally LoRa setup went fine, and I was able to connect to WiFi. I like the two WiFi antennas, making placement in areas with weak WiFi coverage less critical.

#78

@Vinduino Ah, I’ve only accessed the gateways using Ethernet and set up the WiFi. The gateway is pretty good easy to set up.

@brody They look pretty good! do you know where to buy them? and how much they cost?


(Reinier van der Lee) #79

Quick questions: I updated the RG191 to Laird Linux gatwick-laird-93.7.2.9
This basically sets the system back to factory defaults.

  1. Before the update, it only supported TTN legacy, after update I have a choice between legacy (Semtech packet forwarder) and TTN. Is there a preference for using TNN It would mean I have to delete the old Semtech gateway registration and register anew in the TTN console.

  2. The system console now gives me a cryptic error message.

“WiFi Quick Config SoftAP password is still the default. It should be changed! Change Password”

Not sure why I need the Quick Config SoftAP, but problem is that you cannot change the PW without knowing the old password. Default console password do not work. Could not find this in the online documentation.


(Radek Vozák) #80

@shiv http://eshop.loratech.cz/index.php?id_product=10&controller=product&id_lang=2 here is link or send me an email vozak@rvtech.cz . The “main” focus is for possibility to install it outdoor - IP65 and with POE with overvoltage protection. Also you can use 12-48V power source - all our instalations have 24V/1A adapter (included) or are powered from central POE panel with other routerboards and UBNT units.


(Jac Kersing) #81

That was why the AP configuration did not work, device had old firmware that didn’t (yet) support the AP mode.

Yes as it is an authenticated protocol. Anyone can spoof your gateway when you are using the Semtech protocol.

The password is in the manual. I had to search for it as well… (chapter 3.1.2, bullet 3)

password that is the same as the SSID.


(Reinier van der Lee) #82

Thanks for your answer. Using the TTN protocol makes sense because of the authentication and robustness vs Semtech UDP. It is a confusing choice as TTN stopped development and recommends using the “legacy” Semtech variant. I reconfigured and the gw is running fine.


(John Hunt) #83

I finally ordered the Lite Gateway from IMST because it is RED/CE certified. A self made solution with RAK831 + RPi is not certified. I think that is not a problem for us, but…

https://wireless-solutions.de/products/long-range-radio/lora-lite-gateway.html


#84

’ intended for use for ENGINEERING DEVELOPMENT, DEMONSTRATION OR EVALUATION PURPOSES ONLY and is not considered by IMST GmbH to be finished end - product fit for general consumer use. ’


(John Hunt) #85

I asked them also what this sentence means. They said that Lite Gateway contains a Raspberry Pi which is not an industrial product. In any case it is RED/CE certified.


#86

What is RED/CE certified? The Pi, the ic880a, The shield inside or the whole assembled product with enclosure? I’m curious because RED certification is really expensive and doing that for product just designed for development and test only would be a great quality engagement and I don’t see any reference on the technical data except this point

Please note that the certification tests for RED-compliance were done with the configuration parameters in Table 3-2 and are only valid with these settings. It is the user's responsibility only to use these settings otherwise the declaration of conformity (RED compliance) become invalid

Would be interesting to see what’s in the ‘Declaration Of Conformity’


(John Hunt) #87

The whole assembled product (RPi+iC880A+sandwich board+enclosure) is RED certified, or at least they were doing the neccesary measurements when I asked them a month ago.


(Bingo600) #89

My DK Gateway is the same type - Working like a charm

This might come in handy

*** SNIP
The reset pin is 5. Check our video tutorial (4:40):

*** SNIP

/Bingo


(Scorillo47) #90

Hi all,

I am looking for alternatives to a expensive concentrator - would it be possible to add eight separate SX1276 devices instead? (so you get eight channels). These can be coordinate via a common MCU

Thanks


#91

You can only listen on 1 spreading factor, so you needs to have 6x more SX1276’s to listen on all possible SF’s. Also think about antenna signal to all these modules, the required RX/TX switching etc. Maybe a E120,- concentrator isn´t that expensive?

Note that technically it is possible to use a SX1276 to listen to all SF’s in a channel, but you will loose a lot of link budget because it uses CAD (Channel Activity Detection). See the great single channel gateway from Jaap Braam


#92

So then you would need 8 antenna’s, all spaced around 30 cm from one another, to still have a gateway that is only 1/6th of the capacity of a €108 concentrator board. :thinking:


(Sslupsky) #93

Hey @Vinduino Apologies I missed your message about the Laird gateway. I had a problem a couple months ago where a defect caused the gateway to fail and took out one of the ports on my Dell managed switch. There was a batch of gateways that had a defect where the power supply could short to ground. I guess I got the short straw and had one of the bad ones …


(John Hunt) #94

I found some industrial gateways based on iC880A on IMST’s website:
https://wireless-solutions.de/references.html