When questioned during one session @johan mentioned that they were deciding what the volume of initial builds would be based on the stealth community and early users plus feedback gathered from interested people and that until that was fixed they wouldn’t know final price (or timescales) based on build economics if nothing else, also there had not been notice of the final sales channel(s) as this will likely also affect end price depending on margin expectations etc. (This can be significant as launch headline price can often be much lower than final price especially once taxes etc added. The $69 TTIG ended up as £62.50 ex vat, that’s £75 once uk vat added etc. for 1 off, vs current exchange rate adjusted price of ~£50 ex vat - or ~£54ish ex vat at time of launch. Similar happens in the Raspberry Pi space.) That said based on the Things UNO Node we can expect pricing in the $ten’s, not $hundreds I’m sure.
Price indication for the previous 2019 Generic Node initiave was $25. That product had different specs and unfortunately was never released. It will be interesting to see what the price for the new 2021 Generic Node models will be. The more interesting the price the better their potential success.
Jac, Thanks - like you I heard a lot, and must have not heard the mention of target pricing. If you have any whose presentation it was in please let me know and I will try and listen to it again (I could only hear recorded sessions because the live sessions were all late at night).
Blue, thanks I am aware that the 2019 GN target price was US$25. As you say the spec and internals for the current are a bit different, so I was not confident the same target would apply.
Jeff, I fully understand that a final price and delivery dates may require details to be resolved. I do think it reasonable for indicative or target prices and dates to be provided at a launch.
Obviously shipping, tax/duties, handling charges will vary, most people are used to buying things directly from all over the world.
I can’t see why a channel uplift would be put on these devices - it would by far be simplest to buy them directly (not via channels who may add no value). Certainly for early adopters and experimentation.
If the idea is produce a consumer product that competes with other consumer oriented products on the market and to be sold in volumes (and held in inventory by channels/distributors) then perhaps the issue of channel margin is more of a factor. wienkegiezeman said “… we want to share open code and innovation on how we think a LoRaWAN device should work. … to allow anybody to create a version of the Generic Node. …” So I had the distinct impression its purpose was to accelerate adoption and best practice - not to turn TNN into a consumer device company. Maybe I am wrong.
I have to say I am very excited about this product. I am hobbyist electronics engineer/fulltime software engineer, and I developed my own LoRaWAN product end-to-end (Smart Garden Project Complete with Mobile App).
It’s a LoRaWAN smart garden with mobile app, latching solenoids, backend, and sensors.
I would love to get my hands on one of these devices even as an early adopter. Is there any way I can request a device? I’d be happy to provide feedback, etc.
But I also read that it ships which a secure module that has the keys for the TTI Join servers pre-configured. So I’m curious to hear more about how that part of the process works if you want to xfer it to another system. Any pointers on that ?
Hi all,
after signing up for the early access program and ordering both a Generic Node and a Generic Sensor Node (including paying a deposit) over a year ago; I have heard absolutely nothing about a possible release date nor received any email updates on the progress.
Am I alone in this or is it radio silence for all?
I understand that the current lead-time problems are impacting deliveries, but no updates at all is very bad practice.
I hope you all had great holidays and wish everyone successful year ahead.
We’ve been busy struggling with the chipocalypse, but finally managed to pull off the long awaited batch of Generic Nodes.
Hi @hhaddad, thank you for your question.
Despite the global component crisis, we have pulled off the fabrication of the second batch (~500) devices, which are currently in our possession.
We’re now finalizing the last steps of CE certification (Radio and Safety), which was another delaying factor. Hopefully, starting from next month, we’ll be able to fulfill the pre-orders.
